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From: Jean-Luc Cooke <jlcooke@certainkey.com>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL/PATCH] Fortuna PRNG in /dev/random
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:24:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040928022409.GQ28317@certainkey.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040928000719.GA16956@thunk.org>

On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 08:07:19PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:45:02PM -0400, Jean-Luc Cooke wrote:
> > > Actually trying to replace the partial MD4 might be worth an attempt: 
> > > I'm certain that the partial MD4 is not the best/fastest way to generate 
> > > sequence numbers.
> > 
> > It infact uses two full SHA1 hashs for tcp sequence numbers (endian and
> > padding issues aside).  my patch aims to do this in 1 AES256 Encrypt or 2
> > AES256 encrypts for ipv6.
> 
> No, that's not correct.  We rekey once at most every five minutes, and
> that requires a SHA hash, but in the normal case, it's only a partial MD4.

Pardon, the SYN cookies use two SHA1's, not the TCP sequence numbers.  Easy
to mistake to make with comments "Compute the secure sequence number." in the
secure_tcp_syn_cookie() function.  :)

> An AES encrypt for every TCP connection *might* be faster, but I'd
> want to time it to make sure, and doing a bulk test ala "openssl
> speed" isn't necessarily going to be predictive, as I've discussed earlier.

Agreed.

Was meaning to ask:
  add_timer_randomness()

There is a comment:
  /* if over the trickle threshold, use only 1 in 4096 samples */
  if ( random_state->entropy_count > trickle_thresh &&
	(__get_cpu_var(trickle_count)++ & 0xfff))
		return;

"if (x++ & 0xfff)" will return true 0xfff out of 0x1000 of the time.  Is this
the goal, because I don't think this will trickle control very well.

JLC

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-28  2:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-27 18:53 [PROPOSAL/PATCH] Fortuna PRNG in /dev/random Manfred Spraul
2004-09-27 19:45 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-28  0:07   ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-28  2:24     ` Jean-Luc Cooke [this message]
2004-09-28 13:46       ` Herbert Poetzl
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-24  0:59 linux
2004-09-24  2:34 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-24  6:19   ` linux
2004-09-24 21:42   ` linux
2004-09-25 14:54     ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-25 18:43       ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-26  1:42         ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-26  5:23           ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-27  0:50             ` linux
2004-09-27 13:07               ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-27 14:23               ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-27 14:42                 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-26  6:46           ` linux
2004-09-26 16:32             ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-26  2:31       ` linux
2004-09-23 23:43 Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-24  4:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-24 12:54   ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-24 17:43     ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-24 17:59       ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-24 20:44         ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-09-24 21:34         ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-25 14:51           ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-24 18:43       ` James Morris
2004-09-24 19:09         ` Matt Mackall
2004-09-24 20:03         ` Lee Revell
2004-09-24 13:44   ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-27  4:58 ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]   ` <20040927133203.GF28317@certainkey.com>
2004-09-27 14:55     ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-27 15:19       ` Jean-Luc Cooke

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