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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: "Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>
Cc: patrakov@ums.usu.ru, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: udev is too slow creating devices
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:53:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040929235353.GA27192@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040929163828.4d06010b.rddunlap@osdl.org>

On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 04:38:28PM -0700, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:30:35 -0700 Greg KH wrote:
> 
> | On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 10:00:52PM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> | > 
> | > OK. The fact is that, when mounting the root filesystem, the kernel can 
> | > (?) definitely say "there is no such device, and it's useless to wait 
> | > for it--so I panic". Is it possible to duplicate this logic in the case 
> | > with udev and modprobe? If so, it should be built into a common place 
> | > (either the kernel or into modprobe), but not into all apps.
> | 
> | No, we need to just change the kernel to sit and spin for a while if the
> | root partition is not found.  This is the main problem right now for
> | booting off of a USB device (or any other "slow" to discover device.)
> | It's a known kernel issue, and there are patches for 2.4 for this, but
> | no one has taken the time to update them for 2.6.
> 
> (I'm way behind, and I was hoping this thread would die, but:)
> 
> I've seen 2.6 patches for booting from USB or IEEE1394.

Where?

> Is there a fair chance of getting something for USB/1394 booting
> merged?  (other than by using initrd)

I want to see this work, as lots of people bug me about this when I meet
them with the comment, "Oh, you're the USB maintainer, how come I can't
boot off of my USB flash key," which causes me to turn and run away very
fast...

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-29 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-18 19:44 udev is too slow creating devices Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2004-09-18 20:37 ` Marc Ballarin
2004-09-18 21:30 ` Greg KH
2004-09-19  0:06   ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2004-09-19  0:41     ` Greg KH
2004-09-19  8:18       ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2004-09-20  4:19         ` Greg KH
2004-09-19  4:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-19  8:27   ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2004-09-19 11:53     ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-09-19 17:32       ` Greg KH
2004-09-19 18:43         ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-09-20  4:11           ` Greg KH
2004-09-20 10:52             ` Jon Masters
2004-09-19 12:00     ` Marc Ballarin
2004-09-19 14:25       ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2004-09-19 15:14         ` Marc Ballarin
2004-09-19 16:00           ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-09-19 17:11             ` Marc Ballarin
2004-09-19 17:30             ` Greg KH
2004-09-20  2:29               ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-09-20 16:17                 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2004-09-29 23:38               ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-09-29 23:53                 ` Greg KH [this message]
2004-09-19 19:40           ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2004-09-20  0:05             ` Kyle Moffett
2004-09-20  4:06             ` Greg KH
2004-09-20  8:54             ` Marc Ballarin
2004-09-20  0:03         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-18 19:25 Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2004-09-18 21:24 ` Greg KH
     [not found] <http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/9/15/119@localhost.localdomain>
2004-09-15 14:26 ` Michael Thonke
     [not found] <http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/9/14/316@localhost.localdomain>
2004-09-14 20:30 ` Michael Thonke
2004-09-14 18:33 Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2004-09-14 18:42 ` Greg KH
2004-09-14 19:21 ` Chris Meadors
2004-09-14 19:40 ` Chris Friesen
2004-09-14 19:52   ` Greg KH
2004-09-14 20:00     ` Chris Friesen
2004-09-14 20:43     ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2004-09-14 21:35       ` Greg KH
2004-09-14 21:45         ` Marco d'Itri
2004-09-14 21:51           ` Greg KH
2004-09-14 22:47             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 23:04               ` Greg KH
2004-09-14 23:20                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 23:34                   ` Gianni Tedesco
2004-09-14 23:58                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-15 16:15                   ` Greg KH
2004-09-15 19:21                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-15 22:09                       ` Chris Friesen
2004-09-15 22:15                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-15 22:25                           ` Greg KH
2004-09-15 22:23                       ` Greg KH
2004-09-15 22:46                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-15 13:55                 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2004-09-15 14:36                   ` Ian Campbell
2004-09-15 15:20                     ` Tonnerre
2004-09-15 15:45                       ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2004-09-15 16:12                         ` Greg KH
2004-09-15 16:51                         ` Marc Ballarin
2004-09-15 18:00                           ` Greg KH
2004-09-19 16:51                             ` Jon Masters
2004-09-19 18:53                             ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2004-09-20  2:16                               ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-09-17  8:06                           ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-09-15 16:11                     ` Greg KH
2004-09-15 16:09                   ` Greg KH
2004-09-17  7:48             ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-09-14 22:03       ` Marc Ballarin

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