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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, sct@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [patch rfc] towards supporting O_NONBLOCK on regular files
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:01:58 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041006120158.GA8024@logos.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16739.61314.102521.128577@segfault.boston.redhat.com>

On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 09:13:38AM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> ==> Regarding Re: [patch rfc] towards supporting O_NONBLOCK on regular files; Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com> adds:

Hi Jeff!

> Hi, Marcelo,
> 
> The text below was taken from the following standard:
> 
> IEEE Std 1003.1, 2004 Edition
> The Open Group Technical Standard
> Base Sepcifications, Issue 6
> Includes IEEE Std 1003.1-2001, IEEE Std 1003.1-2001/Cor 1-2002
> 
> 
> open()
> 
> O_NONBLOCK When opening a FIFO with O_RDONLY or O_WRONLY set:
>  o If O_NONBLOCK is set, an open( ) for reading-only shall return without
>    delay. An open( ) for writing-only shall return an error if no process
>    currently has the file open for reading.
>  o If O_NONBLOCK is clear, an open( ) for reading-only shall block the
>    calling thread until a thread opens the file for writing. An open( ) for
>    writing-only shall block the calling thread until a thread opens the file
>    for reading.
> 
> When opening a block special or character special file that supports non-
> blocking opens:
>  o If O_NONBLOCK is set, the open( ) function shall return without blocking
>    for the device to be ready or available. Subsequent behavior of the device
>    is device-specific.
>  o If O_NONBLOCK is clear, the open( ) function shall block the calling
>    thread until the device is ready or available before returning.
> 
>  Otherwise, the behavior of O_NONBLOCK is unspecified.
> 
> read()
> 
> When attempting to read a file (other than a pipe or FIFO) that supports
> non-blocking reads and has no data currently available:
>  o If O_NONBLOCK is set, read( ) shall return -1 and set errno to [EAGAIN].

This implies read(O_NONBLOCK) should never block.

Maybe your code should pass down __GFP_FAIL in the gfp_mask 
to the page_cache_alloc() to avoid blocking reclaiming pages,
and possibly pass info down to the block layer 
"if this is going to block, fail".

We have a bdi_congested() check before doing the readahead (dont RA
if the queue is full). Check if that really works - I'm afraid
it can block because the check is not done at each page 
submitted, but rather at each readahead operation (which 
can be several pages large).

>  o If O_NONBLOCK is clear, read( ) shall block the calling thread until
>    some data becomes available.
>  o The use of the O_NONBLOCK flag has no effect if there is some data
>    available.
> 
> write()
> 
> When attempting to write to a file descriptor (other than a pipe or FIFO)
> that supports non- blocking writes and cannot accept the data immediately:
>   o If the O_NONBLOCK flag is clear, write( ) shall block the calling
>     thread until the data can be accepted.
>   o If the O_NONBLOCK flag is set, write( ) shall not block the thread. If
>     some data can be written without blocking the thread, write( ) shall
>     write what it can and return the number of bytes written. Otherwise, it
>     shall return -1 and set errno to [EAGAIN].
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-06 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-01 20:57 [patch rfc] towards supporting O_NONBLOCK on regular files Jeff Moyer
2004-10-03 19:48 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-13 14:28   ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-14 17:39     ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-05 11:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-06 13:13   ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-06 12:01     ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2004-10-07  3:31       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-07 10:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-07 12:30           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-11 18:32           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-11 18:58             ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-11 21:49               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-13 14:26                 ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-15 15:44                   ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-15 16:19                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-17  7:59                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-17 11:20                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-17 19:38                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-18 16:51                           ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-19  6:04                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-21 20:14                             ` James Antill
2004-10-05 15:35 ` Rik van Riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-05 13:07 Dan Kegel

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