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From: Maneesh Soni <maneesh@in.ibm.com>
To: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	manfred@colorfullife.com, davej@redhat.com, wli@holomorphy.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: dentry bloat.
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:28:24 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041006125824.GE2004@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040508201259.GA6383@in.ibm.com>

On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 08:30:55PM +0000, Dipankar Sarma wrote:
> On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 12:13:09PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 May 2004, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > 
> > > I think we can simply take ->d_lock a bit earlier in __d_lookup.  That will
> > > serialise against d_move(), fixing the problem which you mention, and also
> > > makes d_movecount go away.
> > 
> > If you do that, RCU basically loses most of it's meaning.
> > 
> > You'll be taking a lock for - and dirtying in the cache - every single
> > dentry on the hash chain, which is pretty much guaranteed to be slower
> > than just taking the dcache_lock _once_, even if that one jumps across 
> > CPU's a lot.
> > 
> > In other words, no, I don't think that's a good idea. We really want to
> > take the dentry lock only after we're pretty sure we have the right
> > dentry. Otherwise the dentry chains will be bouncing from CPU to CPU all
> > the time.
> 
> Exactly. Taking ->d_lock for every dentry while traversing the hash
> chain should be avoided. As such, atomic operations on that path
> are getting costly.

We can see this happening in the following numbers taken using dcachebench*
gathered on 2-way P4 Xeon 2.4MHz SMP box with 4.5GB RAM. The benchmark was run
with the following parameters and averaged over 10 runs.
./dcachebench -p 32 -b testdir

		Average	microseconds/iterations 	Std. Deviation
		(lesser is better)
2.6.6		10204					161.5
2.6.6-mm1	10571					51.5


*dcachebench is a microbenchmark written by Bill Hartner and is available at
http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linuxperf/dcachebench/dcachebench.html

-- 
Maneesh Soni
Linux Technology Center, 
IBM Software Lab, Bangalore, India
email: maneesh@in.ibm.com
Phone: 91-80-25044999 Fax: 91-80-25268553
T/L : 9243696

  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-11 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20040506200027.GC26679@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <20040506150944.126bb409.akpm@osdl.org>
     [not found]   ` <409B1511.6010500@colorfullife.com>
2004-05-08  8:23     ` dentry bloat Andrew Morton
2004-05-08  9:23       ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 10:11         ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 10:12           ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 10:28           ` viro
2004-05-08 10:41             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 10:52             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 10:31           ` Manfred Spraul
2004-05-08 17:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-08 18:19             ` David S. Miller
2004-05-08 19:01             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 19:13               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-08 19:27                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 19:27                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-08 20:42                   ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-08 20:55                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 21:19                       ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-09  0:10                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-09  2:55                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09  3:12                             ` David S. Miller
2004-05-09  3:53                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09 21:03                                 ` Matt Mackall
2004-05-10  8:27                                   ` Helge Hafting
2004-05-10  8:32                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-10  9:46                                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-10 14:54                                         ` Matt Mackall
2004-05-10 16:26                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-05-10 18:34                                             ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-09  4:12                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-09  4:25                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09  4:36                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-09  5:14                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09  7:36                                     ` Rodolfo Guluarte Hale
2004-05-09  9:10                                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-05-09  9:23                                       ` viro
2004-05-09 15:35                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09 18:11                                         ` Matt Mackall
2004-05-09 22:08                                           ` Francois Romieu
2004-05-09 23:51                                           ` Paul Jackson
2004-05-10  7:17                                         ` Florian Weimer
2004-05-10 14:12                                         ` Rik van Riel
2004-05-09  4:43                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09  7:28                     ` Manfred Spraul
2004-05-09 15:33                       ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-09 22:17                         ` viro
2004-05-09 22:27                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-11  5:26                             ` Maneesh Soni
2004-05-10 18:39                           ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-11  5:17                             ` Maneesh Soni
2004-05-08 20:13                 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-10-06 12:58                   ` Maneesh Soni [this message]
2004-05-11 20:22                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-14 10:33                       ` Raghavan
2004-05-14 10:50                         ` Paul Jackson
2004-05-14 11:04                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-14 11:14                             ` Paul Jackson
2004-05-14 11:24                               ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-14 11:24                               ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-14 11:30                                 ` Paul Jackson
2004-05-14 11:18                         ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-14 14:44                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-08 21:00               ` Dipankar Sarma

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