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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch rfc] towards supporting O_NONBLOCK on regular files
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:12:13 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041007101213.GC10234@logos.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1097119895.4339.12.camel@orbit.scot.redhat.com>

On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 04:31:35AM +0100, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 09:01 -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:

> > >  o If O_NONBLOCK is set, read( ) shall return -1 and set errno to [EAGAIN].
> > 
> > This implies read(O_NONBLOCK) should never block.
> 
> The spec is usually pretty careful never to come straight out and
> require that in all cases, even for true AIO.
>
> > Maybe your code should pass down __GFP_FAIL in the gfp_mask 
> > to the page_cache_alloc() to avoid blocking reclaiming pages,
> > and possibly pass info down to the block layer 
> > "if this is going to block, fail".
> 
> It's not just the page allocation that can block, though.  Readahead
> requires us to map the buffers being read before we submit the async
> read, so we can still block reading indirect blocks.  If we want to
> avoid submitting that extra synchronous IO, then either O_NONBLOCK needs
> to avoid readahead entirely for non-present pages, or the readahead
> itself needs to know that it's a O_NONBLOCK IO and fail cleanly if the
> metadata is not in cache.

Hi Stephen!

Oh yes, theres also the indirect blocks which we might need to read from
disk.

Now the question is, how strict should the O_NONBLOCK implementation be 
in reference to "not blocking" ?

Maybe Jeff's currently implementation is just fine avoiding the 
potential block at !PageUptodate.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-07 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-01 20:57 [patch rfc] towards supporting O_NONBLOCK on regular files Jeff Moyer
2004-10-03 19:48 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-13 14:28   ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-14 17:39     ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-05 11:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-06 13:13   ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-06 12:01     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-07  3:31       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-07 10:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2004-10-07 12:30           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-11 18:32           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-11 18:58             ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-11 21:49               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-13 14:26                 ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-15 15:44                   ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-15 16:19                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-17  7:59                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-17 11:20                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-17 19:38                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-18 16:51                           ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-19  6:04                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-21 20:14                             ` James Antill
2004-10-05 15:35 ` Rik van Riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-05 13:07 Dan Kegel

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