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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>
To: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sf.net>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton OSDL <akpm@osdl.org>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: per-process shared information
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:14:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041015181446.GF17849@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1097862714.2666.13650.camel@cube>

On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 01:51:56PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> Sure. That's not because of RSS. It's for TRS and DRS,
> which are supposed to be RSS-like values specific to
> text (code) and data.

And they're not RSS-like right now if you pick them from statm, the only
RSS-like variable is rss itself in 2.6 ;).

	*data = mm->total_vm - mm->shared_vm

all those are virtual, not physical. dunno about 2.4, but I doubt 2.4
would be much different, rss + shared where the only physical driven
things in 2.4 IIRC. (now only rss is left, and Hugh's patch adds
anon_rss back)

to me TRS and DRS have always been _virtual_ when I read the ps output,
obviously since DRS tends to be orders of magnitude bigger than RSS
itself ;).

> The VM size of text is TSIZ, and of data is DSIZ.
> These numbers, while useful, are not the same thing.

those should come out of statm pretty nicely.

> A user can configure top to display other columns if
> he has a box that can't handle /proc/*/statm well.
> The file will not be read if it is not needed.
> Start top, then do:
> 
> f     enters field modification screen
> o     disable VIRT
> q     disable RES
> t     disable SHR
> n     disable %MEM
> enter exits field modification screen
> W     writes a ~/.toprc file
> 
> So, what is the problem again?  :-)

that you can't get those values efficiently. Even assuming you're ok to
drop shared by disabling SHR, it wouldn't help, without a kernel API
change.

> Well, as long as it makes the users happy... I don't personally
> care, except to say that I don't care to document all sorts
> of kernel-specific variations. It gets hopelessly messy.

Yep, I believe users could be happy with Hugh's rss-anon_rss variant.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-15 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-13 23:10 per-process shared information Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-14 21:47 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-14 23:58   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-14 23:17     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-15 10:45     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-14 21:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-10-14 22:11   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-14 22:37   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-15 10:51     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-15 11:56     ` Hugh Dickins
2004-10-15 13:19       ` Albert Cahalan
2004-10-15 14:28         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-15 14:40           ` Albert Cahalan
2004-10-15 14:52             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-15 17:02             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-15 16:20         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-15 16:31           ` Albert Cahalan
2004-10-15 17:10             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-15 19:29               ` Albert Cahalan
2004-10-15 17:13             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-15 17:51               ` Albert Cahalan
2004-10-15 18:14                 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-10-15 18:30                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-15 18:40                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-15 18:47                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-15 19:23                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-15 20:41                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-15 20:52                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-15 21:16                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-15 21:28                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-15 21:40                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-15 22:04                               ` Hugh Dickins
2004-10-19 15:09           ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-15 16:04       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-19 15:18         ` Bill Davidsen

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