M$ Mail-servers

M$ Mail-servers

[Richard B. Johnson]

Anybody got some ammunition I can throw in the way
of the local Net Nazi who is going to make all email
go to a centralized mail-server where one has to
access it through a web-crawler like it was yahoo.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.6.9 on an i686 machine (5537.79 GrumpyMips).
                  98.36% of all statistics are fiction.

Re: M$ Mail-servers

[Nate Riffe]

I cannot believe Richard B. Johnson said this on the ENTARNET:
> Anybody got some ammunition I can throw in the way
> of the local Net Nazi who is going to make all email
> go to a centralized mail-server where one has to
> access it through a web-crawler like it was yahoo.
> 
> Thanks in advance.

UUCP over SSH.  Need a hub to link to?

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Re: M$ Mail-servers

[Richard B. Johnson]

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Nate Riffe wrote:

> I cannot believe Richard B. Johnson said this on the ENTARNET:
>> Anybody got some ammunition I can throw in the way
>> of the local Net Nazi who is going to make all email
>> go to a centralized mail-server where one has to
>> access it through a web-crawler like it was yahoo.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> UUCP over SSH.  Need a hub to link to?

Not quite yet. "I've only begun to fight!" They won't
trust us with getting mail into our physical systems
anymore because they think that we can get viruses
and spread the plague like M$. They don't understand
that virii, worms, and clap are M$ instruments.

They have been port-scanning this machine all day long
with some kiddie-script that's supposed to break into
M$ machines. They do that from INSIDE the firewall in
an attempt to "prove" vulnerability. So far, it just
eats CPU cycles, dumping the net-spew on the floor:

  20: 2713636494   IO-APIC-level  eth0

.. that many network interrupts since this morning...

Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.6.9 on an i686 machine (5537.79 GrumpyMips).
                  98.36% of all statistics are fiction.

Re: M$ Mail-servers

[Stuart Longland]

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Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Nate Riffe wrote:
>
>> I cannot believe Richard B. Johnson said this on the ENTARNET:
>>
>>> Anybody got some ammunition I can throw in the way
>>> of the local Net Nazi who is going to make all email
>>> go to a centralized mail-server where one has to
>>> access it through a web-crawler like it was yahoo.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> UUCP over SSH.  Need a hub to link to?
>
>
> Not quite yet. "I've only begun to fight!" They won't
> trust us with getting mail into our physical systems
> anymore because they think that we can get viruses
> and spread the plague like M$. They don't understand
> that virii, worms, and clap are M$ instruments.

How about locating a version of MyDoom or something, and showing the the
"cannot execute binary file" error message that Linux gives you.  If you
can prove beyond all reasonable doubt that This Isn't Windows... then
you might be able to show that virii[1] aren't a problem.

Also, what do you mean by "web-crawler"... By that do you mean webmail?
 I don't see that protecting users' systems very effectively...
(especially if it supports HTML email, and they use IE -- eeek!  IFRAME
exploit anyone?)

The other thing worth pointing out is that such a web interface will
generate a significantly higher load on the mail server, as there's the
task of rendering the HTML and parsing the form data on top of trying to
speak fluent SMTP.
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