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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Michael Chan <mchan@broadcom.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	akpm@osdl.org, greg@kroah.com, "Durairaj,
	Sundarapandian" <sundarapandian.durairaj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pci-mmconfig fix for 2.6.9
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:33:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041115083305.GA1662@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041115060021.GA3302@colo.lackof.org>

On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 11:00:21PM -0700, Grant Grundler wrote:
> > writes to handle Michael's power management issue properly. 
> > That would be definitely the safer approach.
> 
> hrm...are you suggesting another entry point in the struct raw_pci_ops?

Yes.

> 
> There are two tests in arch/i386/pci/mmconfig.c:pci_mmcfg_init() before
> the raw_pci_ops is set to &pci_mmcfg. Perhaps some additional crude tests
> could select a different set of pci_raw_ops to deal with posted writes
> to mmconfig space. Someone more familiar with those chipsets might
> find a more elegant solution.

I cannot think of a generic good way to detect posting from the software
side.

> 
> > > That means someone has to introduce a new method to access
> > > mmconfig if they implement postable writes.
> > 
> > 
> > Problem is that it adds silently a very subtle bug and there
> > is no way I know of for ACPI to tell the firmware it shouldn't use
> > posting.
> 
> Uhm, ACPI needs to tell the firmware?
> I would expect firmware to be platform/chip specific and "just know".

x86-64 always uses direct hardware access, x86 can use the 32bit PCI BIOS,
but it's now discouraged. 


> 
> If you meant OS, we already embed knowledge about specific chipsets
> for bug workarounds (e.g. tg3 driver). I think that's an option here too.
> I mean tweaking mmconfig.c to install a (possibly) chip specific
> method (raw_pci_ops) to flush posted mmconfig writes.

Possibly yes.  One issue is that we have a subtle bug until we notice
though. 

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-15  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-13 16:22 [PATCH] pci-mmconfig fix for 2.6.9 Michael Chan
2004-11-13 19:46 ` Grant Grundler
2004-11-14  8:58   ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-15  6:00     ` Grant Grundler
2004-11-15  8:33       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-15  7:07 Michael Chan
2004-11-15  8:01 ` Grant Grundler
2004-11-12 23:56 Michael Chan
2004-11-13  9:22 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-12 21:49 Michael Chan
2004-11-12 22:31 ` Grant Grundler
2004-11-12 19:23 Michael Chan
2004-11-12 20:55 ` Grant Grundler
2004-11-12 17:52 Michael Chan
2004-11-12 18:35 ` Grant Grundler
2004-11-11 16:33 Nguyen, Tom L
2004-11-10 22:20 long
2004-11-11  1:30 ` Greg KH
2004-11-11  7:57 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-10 19:38 long
2004-11-10 19:35 ` Greg KH
2004-11-10 17:26 Durairaj, Sundarapandian
2004-11-10 17:35 ` Greg KH

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