From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@sgi.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Chris Ross <chris@tebibyte.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:54:17 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041117195417.A3289@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1099706150.2810.147.camel@thomas>; from tglx@linutronix.de on Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 02:55:50AM +0100
Entering an old discussion ...
Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> context in which oom-killer is called. My concern is that the decision
> critrion which process should be killed is not sufficient. In my case it
> kills sshd instead of a process which forks a bunch of child processes.
It recently occurred to me that we could have relatively light-weight
voluntary victimization for known trouble-makers. E.g. in a desktop
environment, the cause for trouble seems to be almost always the Web
browser, or something closely related to it.
A process could declare itself as usual suspect. This would then be
recorded as a per-task flag, to be inherited by children. Now, one
could write a launcher like this:
int main(int argc,char **argv)
{
if (argc < 2) {
fprintf(stderr,"usage: %s command [arguments...]\n",*argv);
return 1;
}
sys_suspect_me();
execvp(argv[1],argv+1);
perror(argv[1]);
return 1;
}
And then something like
# mv /usr/bin/browser /usr/bin/browser.bin
# echo '#!/bin/sh' >/usr/bin/browser
# echo 'suspect_me /usr/bin/browser.bin "$@"' >>/usr/bin/browser
# chmod 555 /usr/bin/browser
or use an alias if you like your packet manager.
Not sure if this would actually be useful in real life, but it looks
at least like a relatively simple and flexible solution to a part of
the selection problem.
One could even consider getting rid of the suspects a while before
hitting OOM, so that the system doesn't have to slow down before the
inevitable killing.
Not that'm getting many OOMs these days - my VNC setup is quite good
at dying well before anything serious turns up :-(
- Werner
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-17 22:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-05 20:01 [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-05 23:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-05 23:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-06 1:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 1:26 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06 1:36 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-06 1:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 9:47 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-06 10:53 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06 15:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 16:21 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-12-10 6:02 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-11-06 11:37 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 15:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 16:54 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 17:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 19:24 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-07 1:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 10:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 1:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-06 10:28 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-17 22:54 ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2004-11-17 23:27 ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18 0:04 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18 0:28 ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18 1:14 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18 8:20 ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18 10:01 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18 14:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-18 15:10 ` Chris Friesen
2004-11-06 10:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 15:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-11-06 17:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-07 0:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-07 11:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 12:53 ` [PATCH] Remove OOM killer Andries Brouwer
2004-11-06 10:41 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-07 9:26 ` Marko Macek
2004-11-07 11:34 ` memory overcommit (was: [PATCH] Remove OOM killer ...) Anton Ertl
2004-11-08 16:27 ` [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-08 18:55 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 2:22 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-09 2:35 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 2:46 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-09 7:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 7:15 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10 1:11 ` Nick Piggin
[not found] <fa.ev73q5c.ejcnom@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.es1mdq5.76ib8j@ifi.uio.no>
2004-11-18 20:48 ` Bodo Eggert
2004-11-18 21:15 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-19 1:05 ` Bodo Eggert
2004-11-19 0:15 ` Andreas Dilger
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