From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
discuss@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: RFC: let x86_64 no longer define X86
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:45:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041119124552.GD22981@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <419DE90D.9030509@pobox.com>
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 07:37:33AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Andi Kleen wrote:
> >On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 07:12:46AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> >
> >>Andi Kleen wrote:
> >>
> >>>I don't know details about the driver, but it's not enabled on x86-64
> >>>because x86-64 doesn't have ISA set.
> >>
> >>
> >>which I disagree with. CONFIG_ISA should include southbridge devices
> >>behind a PCI<->ISA bridge. There is zero value to a more stricter
> >>"there is a physical ISA bus in this machine" definition.
> >
> >
> >There is. It gets rid of many tens of drivers that are not and will never
> >be 64bit clean and have a snowball in hell chances to work on x86-64.
> >
> >In theory you could invent a new ISA_SLOT or ISA_BROKEN config for them,
> >but since ISA does the job quite well for near everybody except
> >for one or two corner cases I don't see any sense in changing it.
>
> The traditional legacy ISA devices -- floppy, serial, parallel, mouse,
> keyboard, IDE -- are still around. Yet now we need to invent a new name
> to classify ISA devices that have been with us for 20 years?
>
> CONFIG_ISA_BROKEN is more appropriate than pretending devices we've
> called ISA since the 1980's do not imply/depend on CONFIG_ISA.
Silly question:
Why CONFIG_ISA_BROKEN?
A new CONFIG_ISA_SLOT might solve such cases, and otherwise the case
Andi described would be perfectly covered by !CONFIG_64BIT .
> Jeff
cu
Adrian
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-19 12:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-19 0:51 RFC: let x86_64 no longer define X86 Adrian Bunk
2004-11-19 1:14 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-19 1:19 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-19 1:31 ` [discuss] " Paul Menage
2004-11-19 12:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-19 12:40 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-19 13:29 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-19 8:51 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-19 10:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-11-19 10:34 ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2004-11-19 11:28 ` David Woodhouse
2004-11-19 11:55 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-19 11:50 ` David Woodhouse
2004-11-19 12:05 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-19 12:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-11-19 12:19 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-19 12:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-11-19 12:45 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2004-11-19 12:55 ` linux-os
2004-11-19 13:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-11-19 13:35 ` Raul Miller
2004-11-19 14:11 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-19 13:58 ` David Woodhouse
2004-11-19 12:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-19 12:09 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-19 11:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-11-19 22:31 ` Paul Mackerras
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