From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Priority Inheritance Test (Real-Time Preemption)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:08:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041126010841.GA3563@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.05.10411252305040.25041-100000@da410.ifa.au.dk>
* Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk> wrote:
> I am running on -31-7 kernel now - it takes quite some time to run with
> the runall.sh script with 100000 samples per point so I don't have full
> data yet. [...]
btw., do you really need 100,000 samples to get statistically stable
results? I've been running with 1000 samples and it was already more
than usable - i'd say 3000-5000 samples ought to be more than enough.
> But the bounds look like
> depth observed bound theoretical
> 1 1 ms 1 ms
> 2 3 ms 2 ms :-(
are you sure the theoretical limit is 2 msec? I think it's 3 msec, for
the following reason:
there are two types of nonprivileged-task lock sequences allowed in the
2-deep case:
spin_lock(&lock2);
spin_lock(&lock1);
... loop for 1 msec ...
spin_unlock(&lock1);
spin_unlock(&lock2);
or:
spin_lock(&lock1);
... loop for 1 msec ...
spin_unlock(&lock1);
now, with the above locking, the worst case scenario is the following
one, in chronological order [task A and B are unprivileged, RT is the
highprio task]:
task-A task-B task-RT
spin_lock(&lock2);
[ gets lock2 ]
spin_lock(&lock1);
[ gets lock1 ]
spin_lock(&lock2);
[ boosts task-A ]
[ waits ]
[ gets RT prio ] .
spin_lock(&lock1); .
[ boosts task-B ] .
[ waits ] .
. [ gets RT prio ] .
. [ 1 msec loop ] .
. spin_unlock(&lock1); .
[ gets lock 1 ] .
spin_lock(&lock1); .
[ waits ] .
[ 1 msec loop ] . .
spin_unlock(&lock1); . .
[ gets lock1 ] .
spin_unlock(&lock2); .
[ gets lock2 ]
spin_lock(&lock1);
[ boosts task-B ]
[ waits ]
[ 1 msec loop ] .
spin_unlock(&lock1); .
[ gets lock1 ]
the additional 1 msec comes in because the RT task might be blocking on
a task that _itself_ has to wait 1 msec to get its second lock. So we
have 3 msec of maximum waiting altogether.
the additional +1 msec comes from the fact that 1-deep lock/unlock of
lock1 is an allowed operation too - 2 msec would be the limit if the
only sequence is the 2-deep one.
so i think the numbers, at least in the 2-deep case, are quite close to
the theoretical boundary.
agreed?
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-26 23:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-21 20:29 Priority Inheritance Test (Real-Time Preemption) Esben Nielsen
2004-11-22 0:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-23 13:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-23 15:47 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-23 23:03 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-24 3:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-24 7:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-24 8:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-24 8:33 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-24 9:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-24 10:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-25 15:46 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-25 16:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-25 16:08 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-25 17:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-25 22:08 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-26 1:08 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2004-11-26 0:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-26 0:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-26 8:52 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-26 16:26 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-26 20:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-26 21:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-27 23:05 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-28 8:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-28 15:55 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-29 9:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-29 15:07 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-29 15:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-29 15:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-29 16:50 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-30 8:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-22 9:23 ` Bill Huey
2004-11-22 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-22 21:25 ` Bill Huey
2004-11-22 14:16 ` john cooper
2004-11-22 15:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-23 1:19 ` john cooper
2004-11-23 8:13 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-23 9:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-22 21:30 ` Bill Huey
2004-11-23 1:34 ` john cooper
2004-11-22 16:12 ` Esben Nielsen
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