From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc@rncbc.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
mark_h_johnson@raytheon.com, "K.R. Foley" <kr@cybsft.com>,
Bill Huey <bhuey@lnxw.com>, Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>,
Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas@gmx.net>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Michal Schmidt <xschmi00@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>,
Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.stanford.edu>,
Karsten Wiese <annabellesgarden@yahoo.de>,
Gunther Persoons <gunther_persoons@spymac.com>,
emann@mrv.com, Shane Shrybman <shrybman@aei.ca>,
Amit Shah <amit.shah@codito.com>,
Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.31-19
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:31:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041201163103.GA13922@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041201162034.GA8098@elte.hu>
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* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> i think i found the bug - it's an upstream ACPI bug. Does the patch
> below (or the -31-19 kernel, which i've just uploaded) fix the xruns?
>
> the upstream ACPI bug is this: we check need_resched() _before_
> disabling preemption. This opens up the following scenario:
>
> swapper: !need_resched()
> [IRQ context]
> wakes up a task
> marks idle task as need-resched
>
> swapper: acpi_processor_idle(); // sleeps until next irq
>
> instant 1msec latency introduced...
>
> normally default_idle() is safe because it re-checks need_resched with
> interrupts disabled before it truly halts the CPU. But
> acpi_processor_idle() doesnt seem to be doing this! Your trace clearly
> shows a missed preemption due to ACPI. I'm wondering why no-one has
> triggered this before, it's a really bad bug that should be fixed in
> 2.6.10.
i've attached the particular trace from Rui's collection of traces which
nicely shows the ACPI race in action. Here are the relevant events:
swapper-0 08000000 0.840ms (+0.000ms): preempt_schedule (cpu_idle)
swapper-0 ........ 0.913ms (+0.000ms): -> IRQ 5-3052 [ 0000001d 0000008c ]: wake_up_process
swapper-0 08000001 0.913ms (+0.920ms): acpi_processor_idle (cpu_idle)
swapper-0 ........ 1.834ms (+0.000ms): common_interrupt: [ e0022266 00000000 00000000 ]
swapper-0 88010001 1.834ms (+0.000ms): direct_timer_interrupt (do_IRQ)
IRQ 5-3052 80000002 1.848ms (+0.000ms): __switch_to (__sched_text_start)
i.e. at timestamp 0.840ms cpu_idle() got preempted (it was after the
need_resched() check but before the rcu_read_lock() which disables
preemption), then at 0.913ms a task was woken up by the hardirq context,
but despite this we called into acpi_processor_idle() which slept
dutifully until the next timer interrupt hit us. Then did only the woken
up task schedule. (which caused an xrun in Rui's setup.)
Ingo
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-12-01 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-26 12:12 Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.31-7 Rui Nuno Capela
2004-11-29 11:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-29 11:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-29 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-29 15:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-29 13:13 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-11-29 14:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-29 15:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-29 23:16 ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.31-13 Gene Heskett
2004-11-30 1:50 ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-30 3:19 ` Gene Heskett
2004-11-30 4:54 ` Gene Heskett
2004-11-30 15:26 ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-30 16:24 ` Gene Heskett
2004-11-30 16:52 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-01 7:16 ` Gene Heskett
2004-11-30 16:57 ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-30 10:29 ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.31-7 Rui Nuno Capela
2004-11-30 13:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-30 15:39 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-11-30 16:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-01 10:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-01 11:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-01 12:49 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-12-01 12:47 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-12-01 15:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-01 16:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-01 16:20 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.31-19 Ingo Molnar
2004-12-01 16:31 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2004-12-01 18:59 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-12-01 21:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-01 21:30 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <32788.192.168.1.8.1101938057.squirrel@192.168.1.8>
2004-12-01 21:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-01 22:04 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-12-01 22:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-01 22:31 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-12-02 9:12 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-12-02 12:59 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-12-02 16:38 ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2004-12-01 22:43 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 8:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-02 12:22 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 12:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-02 13:06 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 13:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-02 13:40 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 13:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-02 16:08 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 17:44 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 21:12 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 13:18 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-12-03 1:41 ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2004-12-03 2:23 ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2004-11-30 18:13 ` Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.31-7 Remi Colinet
2004-11-30 8:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-01 8:30 ` Eran Mann
2004-12-01 8:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-01 18:19 ` Adam Heath
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2004-12-02 21:01 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.31-19 Mark_H_Johnson
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