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From: Andrew Burgess <aab@cichlid.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: jackit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.31-19
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 07:46:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200412021546.iB2FkK5a005502@cichlid.com> (raw)

Ingo Molnar said:

>Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas@gmx.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hmm, i wonder if there's a way to detect non RT behaviour in jackd
>> clients. I mean AFAIK the only thing allowed for the process callback
>> of on is the FIFO it waits on to be woken, right? Every other sleeping
>> is to be considered a bug. 

>there's such a feature in -RT kernels. If a user process calls:
>	gettimeofday(1,1);
>then the kernel turns 'atomic mode' on. To turn it off, call:
>	gettimeofday(1,0);

>while in atomic-mode, any non-atomic activity (scheduling) will produce
>a kernel message and a SIGUSR2 sent to the offending process (once,
>atomic mode has to be re-enabled again for the next message). Preemption
>by a higher-prio task does not trigger a message/signal.

>If you run the client under gdb you should be able to catch the SIGUSR2
>signal and then you can see the offending code's backtrace via 'bt'.

Might be handy to have the option to send a SIGABRT, then you don't need
to guess which app to run under gdb and the offending code is there in
the core file.

Also, I'm cc-ing jack-devel. This could fit into libjack so no client
mods would be needed I think. After the thread_init_callback is run libjack
could run 'gettimeofday(1,1);' for each client thread. Then if any client
breaks the rules you get a core showing where. 

On further thought, I suppose libjack could install a SIGUSR2 handler and
have that call abort for all the rt client threads. Still no client mods
needed, only an RT-aware libjack.

A big thank you to Ingo and everyone else involved on behalf of all the
linux audio users!


             reply	other threads:[~2004-12-02 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-02 15:46 Andrew Burgess [this message]
2004-12-02 16:03 ` [Jackit-devel] Re: Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.31-19 Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 16:26   ` Jack O'Quin
2004-12-02 16:57     ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 17:07       ` Jack O'Quin
2004-12-02 20:07         ` Lee Revell
2004-12-02 20:48           ` Jack O'Quin
2004-12-02 17:09       ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 17:32         ` Jack O'Quin
2004-12-02 20:03           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 21:10             ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-02 22:34 ` Bill Huey

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