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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, ganzinger@mvista.com,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [patch, 2.6.10-rc3] safe_hlt() & NMIs
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:35:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041215163541.GA29127@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0412150740050.3279@ppc970.osdl.org>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > i ran the stresstest overnight with the 10 KHz NMI, and not a single
> > time did the new branch trigger, out of hundreds of millions of IRQs and
> > NMIs. I think this suggests that the race doesnt exist in current CPUs.
> 
> That may well be true, but I'm not convinced your test is meaningful
> or shows anything.
> 
> The thing is, either the CPU is busy, or it's idle. If it's busy,
> you'll never see this. And if it's idle, it will always be _in_ the
> "halt" instruction.

i deliberately started a test where there was roughly 50% idle time.

> The only way to see the case is in the borderline cases, and if/when
> there are multiple different interrupts (first non-NMI interrupt takes
> it out of the hlt, and then the NMI happens to catch the sti). And
> quite frankly, I don't see how you would stress-test it. A 1kHz timer
> interrupt with a 10kHz NMI interrupt is still very infrequent
> interrupts...

i started an infinite loop that generated disk IRQs, and started a
network test that generated network IRQs. The IRQ rate was roughly
10K/sec - this combined with the 10K/sec NMI rate should be an adequate
mix. (I also made sure that it's really default_idle that is used.)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-15 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-09 23:59 RCU question George Anzinger
2004-12-10  4:31 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-12-10 19:42   ` George Anzinger
2004-12-10 20:40     ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-12-10 20:45       ` Lee Revell
2004-12-10 21:02         ` George Anzinger
2004-12-10 22:58           ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-11  2:22             ` George Anzinger
2004-12-11  2:45               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-11  3:29                 ` George Anzinger
2004-12-11 14:52                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-11 16:32                     ` Manfred Spraul
2004-12-11 16:52                       ` George Anzinger
2004-12-12  2:53                         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-12  8:59                           ` Manfred Spraul
2004-12-12  9:37                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-12 10:22                               ` Manfred Spraul
2004-12-12 12:15                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-14 21:40                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-12-14 22:23                                     ` [patch, 2.6.10-rc3] safe_hlt() & NMIs Ingo Molnar
2004-12-14 22:47                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-14 23:09                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-15  8:52                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-15 15:44                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-15 16:35                                               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2004-12-16  0:37                                           ` Alan Cox
2004-12-16  1:58                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-16 14:51                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-16 15:08                                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-12-16 15:11                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-16 15:42                                                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-12-16 15:54                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-16  2:10                                             ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-16 13:26                                               ` Alan Cox
2004-12-14 23:41                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-14 23:00                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-15  5:04                                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-15  6:27                                       ` Avi Kivity
2004-12-15  8:51                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-12 16:51                                 ` RCU question George Anzinger
2004-12-12 22:40                                   ` Manfred Spraul
2004-12-13  5:22                                     ` George Anzinger
2004-12-12 16:26                             ` Zwane Mwaikambo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-17 23:35 [patch, 2.6.10-rc3] safe_hlt() & NMIs Chuck Ebbert

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