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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Dan Dennedy <dan@dennedy.org>, Ben Collins <bcollins@debian.org>,
	Linux1394-Devel <linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] ieee1394_core.c: remove unneeded EXPORT_SYMBOL's
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:02:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041220230222.GA21288@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1103583486.1252.102.camel@krustophenia.net>

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 05:58:06PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 23:53 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 11:27:50PM -0500, Dan Dennedy wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2004-12-19 at 21:42 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> > > > What do you tell a vendor who wants to write a driver for their device?
> > > > "OK, about half the functions you need are in the kernel, the other half
> > > > you have to port from this old kernel because we removed them.  Maybe we
> > > > will put them back if we really like your driver"?
> > > 
> > > While I think some of Adrian's points are valid, I am exercising caution
> > > because I am a new maintainer for linux1394 (although not new to the
> > > project in general). This is an interface version management issue IMHO.
> > > Adrian is not suggesting to remove the functions yet, but it is
> > > effectively the same thing to an outsider. A vendor or services provider
> > > would have to modify kernel source to let their driver work again, which
> > > is not technically challenging to kernel hackers, but frustrating
> > > situation to be in as a vendor or customer. It creates a mess in
> > > support, distribution, deployment, etc.
> > 
> > The solution is simple:
> > The vendor or services provider submits his driver for inclusion into 
> > the kernel which is the best solution for everyone.
> > 
> 
> What if the driver is under development and doesn't work yet?

For a driver developer, it shouldn't be a big problem to re-add an 
EXPORT_SYMBOL or even to undo an #if 0 of a currently unused function.

> Lee

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-20 23:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-20  1:53 [2.6 patch] ieee1394_core.c: remove unneeded EXPORT_SYMBOL's Adrian Bunk
2004-12-20  2:10 ` Dan Dennedy
2004-12-20  2:25   ` Adrian Bunk
2004-12-20  2:42     ` Lee Revell
2004-12-20  4:27       ` Dan Dennedy
2004-12-20 22:53         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-12-20 22:58           ` Lee Revell
2004-12-20 23:02             ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2004-12-20 23:21               ` Lee Revell
2004-12-21  0:40               ` Alan Cox
2004-12-21 17:17             ` Greg KH
2004-12-21 17:20               ` Lee Revell
2004-12-21 17:27                 ` Greg KH
2004-12-21 22:19                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-12-22 14:08                   ` Alan Cox
2004-12-20  9:01 ` Arne Caspari
2004-12-20 12:15   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-12-20 13:20     ` Arne Caspari
2004-12-20 14:35       ` Alan Cox
2004-12-22  8:29       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-12-22  8:57         ` Stefan Richter
2004-12-22 12:01           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-12-22 12:21             ` Arne Caspari
2004-12-22 16:04             ` Stefan Richter
2004-12-20 14:39   ` Ben Collins
2004-12-20 15:15     ` Alan Cox
2004-12-20 15:46       ` Ben Collins
2004-12-20 20:15         ` Alan Cox
2004-12-21  8:33           ` Arne Caspari
2004-12-21 12:00             ` Adrian Bunk
2004-12-21 12:49               ` Arne Caspari
2004-12-21 17:15                 ` Greg KH
2004-12-21 18:51                   ` Arne Caspari
2004-12-21 18:58                     ` Greg KH
2004-12-20 17:51   ` Adrian Bunk
2004-12-20 21:05     ` Lee Revell
2004-12-20 21:49       ` girish wadhwani
2004-12-21  8:37         ` Arne Caspari
2004-12-21  9:06           ` Bernard Leach
2004-12-21 23:35         ` Pieter Palmers
2004-12-22  0:56           ` Lee Revell
2004-12-21  0:42     ` updated: " Adrian Bunk
2004-12-21  8:46       ` Arne Caspari
2004-12-21 17:13         ` Greg KH

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