From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: riel@redhat.com, andrea@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:44:57 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050105134457.03aca488.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050105174934.GC15739@logos.cnet>
Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 01:50:51PM -0500, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> >
> > >Another unrelated problem I have in this same area and that can explain
> > >VM troubles at least theoretically, is that blk_congestion_wait is
> > >broken by design. First we cannot wait on random I/O not related to
> > >write back. Second blk_congestion_wait gets trivially fooled by
> > >direct-io for example. Plus the timeout may cause it to return too early
> > >with slow blkdev.
That's true, as we discussed a couple of months back. But the current code
is nice and simple and has been there for a couple of years with no
observed problems.
> > Or the IO that just finished, finished for pages in
> > another memory zone, or pages we won't scan again in
> > our current go-around through the VM...
>
> Thing is there is no distinction between pages which have been written out
> for what purpose at the block level.
>
> One can conjecture the following: per-zone waitqueue to be awakened from
> end_page_writeback() (for PG_reclaim pages only of course), and a function
> to wait on the perzone waitqueue:
>
> wait_vm_writeback (zone, timeout);
>
> Instead of the current blk_congestion_wait() on try_to_free_pages/balance_pgdat.
>
The caller would need to wait on all the zones which can satisfy the
caller's allocation request. A bit messy, although not rocket science.
One would have to be careful to avoid additional CPU consumption due to
delivery of multiple wakeups at each I/O completion.
We should be able to demonstrate that such a change really fixes some
problem though. Otherwise, why bother?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-05 21:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-03 17:25 [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned Rik van Riel
2005-01-05 10:08 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-05 18:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-05 18:50 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-05 17:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-05 21:44 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-01-05 20:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-05 23:51 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:27 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 1:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 1:40 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 1:36 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 3:42 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 3:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 4:26 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 4:35 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 4:47 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 4:55 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 8:06 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 8:16 ` memory barrier in ll_rw_blk.c (was Re: [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned) Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 8:32 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 8:53 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 12:00 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 4:59 ` [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:05 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:36 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:44 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 13:28 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 6:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-05 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
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