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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@cpushare.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: seccomp for 2.6.11-rc1-bk8
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:55:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050121125558.GA5596@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050121124701.GA5179@elte.hu>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> > > This is the seccomp patch ported to 2.6.11-rc1-bk8, that I need for
> > > Cpushare (until trusted computing will hit the hardware market). 
> > > [...]
> > 
> > why do you need any kernel code for this? This seems to be a limited
> > ptrace implementation: restricting untrusted userspace code to only be
> > able to exec read/write/sigreturn.
> > 
> > So this patch, unless i'm missing something, duplicates in essence what
> > ptrace can do [...]
> 
> there's one thing ptrace wont do: if the ptrace parent dies
> unexpectedly and the child was 'running' (there is a small window
> where the child might not be stopped and where this may happen) then
> the child can get runaway. While i think this is theoretical (UML
> doesnt suffer from this problem), it is simple to fix - find below a
> proof-of-concept patch that introduces PTRACE_ATTACH_JAIL - ptraced
> children can never escape out of such a jail. (barely tested - but you
> get the idea.)

maybe this could even be fit into existing ptrace semantics, without any
need for PTRACE_ATTACH_JAIL. What we need is to catch the case where a
ptraced child is running (i.e. the signal_wake_up() has already been
done, and the parent is waiting for the child to stop again), and the
ptrace parent is killed unexpectedly.  Would it be a correct fix to just
unconditionally stop the child in this case (and leave it hanging in
such a state)? Or to kill it right away?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-21 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-21 10:06 seccomp for 2.6.11-rc1-bk8 Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-21 12:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-01-21 12:47   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-01-21 12:55     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-01-21 21:31       ` Roland McGrath
2005-01-22  3:25         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-21 20:24     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-21 17:39   ` Chris Wright
2005-01-21 18:39     ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-21 18:50       ` Chris Wright
2005-01-21 19:55         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-01-21 20:34           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-21 20:54             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-01-22  2:51               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-22 10:32             ` Pavel Machek
2005-01-22 17:25               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-22 19:42                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-01-22 23:34                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-23  0:07                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-01-23  0:46                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-23  0:43                     ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-23  0:52                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-23  4:43                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-01-23  6:11                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-21 18:59     ` David Wagner
2005-01-21 19:17       ` Chris Wright
2005-01-23  7:34         ` David Wagner
2005-01-24 15:10           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-02-15  9:25           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-25 19:01             ` David Wagner
2005-01-21 12:11 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-15  9:32 ` seccomp for 2.6.11-rc4 Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-16  5:25   ` Herbert Poetzl
2005-02-18  2:25     ` Andrea Arcangeli

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