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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@csd.uu.se>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	James Antill <james.antill@redhat.com>,
	Bryn Reeves <breeves@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: don't let mmap allocate down to zero
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:52:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050127125254.GZ10843@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16888.46184.52179.812873@alkaid.it.uu.se>

William Lee Irwin III writes:
>> There's a long discussion here, in which no one appears to have noticed
>> that SHLIB_BASE does not exist in mainline. Is anyone else awake here?

On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 10:29:12AM +0100, Mikael Pettersson wrote:
> About the only kernel-level enforcement I would feel comfortable with is
> to have non-fixed mmap()s refuse to grab the _page_ at address 0. Any range
> larger than this is policy, and hence needs a user-space override mechanism.
> Also, if user-space wants to catch accesses in a larger region above 0 then
> it can do that itself, by checking the result of mmap(), or by doing a fixed
> mmap() at address 0 with suitable size and rwx protection disabled.

FIRST_USER_PGD_NR is a matter of killing the entire box dead where it
exists, not any kind of process' preference. Userspace should be
prevented from setting up vmas below FIRST_USER_PGD_NR. It has zero to
do with what userspace's own concerns, but rather the kernel trying to
avoid system-critical data from being stomped on by userspace. It would
be like accidentally allowing userspace to use the IDT for malloc() on
x86, destroying one's ability to handle interrupts, page faults, etc.,
to allow userspace to go below FIRST_USER_PGD_NR on ARM.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-27 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-26 16:18 don't let mmap allocate down to zero Rik van Riel
2005-01-26 16:38 ` linux-os
2005-01-26 17:05   ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-26 17:34   ` Chris Friesen
2005-01-26 17:57     ` Bryn Reeves
2005-01-26 18:37       ` linux-os
2005-01-26 18:54         ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-26 19:09           ` linux-os
2005-01-26 19:13         ` Chris Friesen
2005-01-26 19:08       ` Chris Friesen
2005-01-26 18:10   ` Olivier Galibert
2005-01-26 18:20     ` linux-os
2005-01-26 18:31       ` Olivier Galibert
2005-01-26 18:39         ` linux-os
2005-01-26 19:41   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-01-26 20:26   ` Andy Isaacson
2005-01-26 20:42     ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-26 22:12   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-01-26 23:31   ` Brian Gerst
2005-01-26 17:25 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-27  5:09   ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-27  5:18     ` Dave Jones
2005-01-27  5:28       ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-27  9:29     ` Mikael Pettersson
2005-01-27 12:52       ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2005-01-27 14:25         ` Russell King
2005-01-27 15:12           ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-27 19:22             ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-27 20:44               ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-27 20:58                 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-27 21:13                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-27 21:28                     ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-28  5:30                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-28 13:01                         ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-28 14:14                           ` Hugh Dickins
2005-01-28 14:26                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-28 15:41                             ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-28 15:53                               ` Hugh Dickins
2005-01-27 21:58                     ` linux-os
2005-01-27 14:26         ` Mikael Pettersson

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