From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>,
Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc@rncbc.org>, "K.R. Foley" <kr@cybsft.com>,
Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.stanford.edu>,
mark_h_johnson@raytheon.com, Amit Shah <amit.shah@codito.com>,
Karsten Wiese <annabellesgarden@yahoo.de>,
Bill Huey <bhuey@lnxw.com>, Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>,
emann@mrv.com, Gunther Persoons <gunther_persoons@spymac.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas@gmx.net>,
Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
Shane Shrybman <shrybman@aei.ca>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Michal Schmidt <xschmi00@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>
Subject: Re: Real-time rw-locks (Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.32-15)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:45:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050128194546.GA348@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1106939910.14321.37.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>
* Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> If you do have a highest interrupt case that causes all activity to
> block, then rwsems may indeed fit the bill.
>
> In the NFS client code we may use rwsems in order to protect stateful
> operations against the (very infrequently used) server reboot recovery
> code. The point is that when the server reboots, the server forces us
> to block *all* requests that involve adding new state (e.g. opening an
> NFSv4 file, or setting up a lock) while our client and others are
> re-establishing their existing state on the server.
it seems the most scalable solution for this would be a global flag plus
per-CPU spinlocks (or per-CPU mutexes) to make this totally scalable and
still support the requirements of this rare event. An rwsem really
bounces around on SMP, and it seems very unnecessary in the case you
described.
possibly this could be formalised as an rwlock/rwlock implementation
that scales better. brlocks were such an attempt.
> IOW: If you are planning on converting rwsems into a semaphore, you
> will screw us over most royally, by converting the currently highly
> infrequent scenario of a single task being able to access the server
> into the common case.
nono, i have no such plans.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-28 19:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-12-10 17:49 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.32-15 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-10 21:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-10 21:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-10 21:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-13 0:16 ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2004-12-13 6:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-14 0:46 ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2004-12-14 4:42 ` K.R. Foley
2004-12-14 8:47 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-12-14 11:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-27 14:35 ` Real-time rw-locks (Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.32-15) Esben Nielsen
2004-12-27 15:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-27 16:23 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-12-27 16:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-27 21:06 ` Bill Huey
2004-12-27 21:48 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-12-28 21:59 ` Lee Revell
2005-01-04 15:25 ` Andrew McGregor
2004-12-28 21:42 ` Lee Revell
2005-01-28 7:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-01-28 11:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-28 15:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-01-28 15:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-28 16:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-01-28 19:18 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-01-28 19:45 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-01-28 23:25 ` Bill Huey
2005-01-28 21:13 ` Lee Revell
2005-01-30 22:03 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-01-30 23:59 ` Kyle Moffett
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