Re: Sabotaged PaXtest (was: Re: Patch 4/6 randomize the stack pointer)

[Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>]

* pageexec@freemail.hu <pageexec@freemail.hu> wrote:

> > btw., do you consider PaX as a 100% sure solution against 'code
> > injection' attacks (meaning that the attacker wants to execute an
> > arbitrary piece of code, and assuming the attacked application has a
> > stack overflow)? I.e. does PaX avoid all such attacks in a guaranteed
> > way?
> 
> your question is answered in http://pax.grsecurity.net/docs/pax.txt
> that i suggested you to read over a year ago. the short answer is that
> it's not only about stack overflows but any kind of memory corruption
> bugs, and you need both a properly configured kernel (for PaX/i386
> that would be SEGMEXEC/MPROTECT/NOELFRELOCS) and an access control
> system (to take care of the file system and file mappings) and a
> properly prepared userland (e.g., no text relocations in ELF
> executables/libs, which is a good thing anyway).

i'm just curious, assuming that all those conditions are true, do you
consider PaX a 100% sure solution against 'code injection' attacks?
(assuming that the above PaX and access-control feature implementations
are correct.) Do you think the upstream kernel could/should integrate it
as a solution against code injection attacks?

	Ingo