From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Stelian Pop <stelian@popies.net>,
Francois Romieu <romieu@fr.zoreil.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:40:30 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050209034030.GC4828@bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0502090346470.30794@scrub.home>
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 03:47:49AM +0100, Roman Zippel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote:
>
> > Nice, Roman. All I need is a cooperating third party who is willing to
> > give me your code under a different (albeit invalid) license.
>
> Short version: Bullshit.
> Long version: See previous mails.
Let's try that again:
Short version: let's violate a license.
Long version: let's violate a license and see if we get in trouble.
Roman, we can do this forever. Every time you cause a fuss more people
become aware of how unreasonable you are being. That's fine with me,
come on back and flame some more.
Our position is clear: we are trying to do the right thing for Linux,
we've developed a business model which works, we're committed to helping
Linux. Yup, you're right, we aren't helping *you* in a way you like.
On the other hand, we are helping you, we've been doing it for years,
and we've been doing it in spite of you being a complete jerk about it.
And we'll keep doing it no matter how much of a jerk you want to
be because, surprise!, it isn't really about you. It's about Linux.
And in so far as Linux is concerned, you are even less relevant than we
are and we aren't that big of a deal. So Linux wins, you get to complain,
life goes on.
You know, you could change all this. Instead of complaining that we
are somehow hurting you, which virtually 100% of the readers know is
nonsense, you could be producing an alternative answer which is better.
Instead of doing that you keep whining that we aren't helping you do that
and that isn't fair. Hey, come on, get a grip. I'm not out hear whining
that the GPL isn't fair to my agenda even though it frequently isn't.
I work around it if it is important. If not using BK is important to you
then don't use it. If having a free software SCM system is important to
you then create one. But whining that we aren't helping you is beyond
pathetic and I am 100% positive I'm not alone in that opinion.
--
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-09 3:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-02 15:54 [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto Stelian Pop
2005-02-02 16:15 ` Lethalman
2005-02-02 16:37 ` Lethalman
2005-02-03 10:34 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-02 21:47 ` Daniele Venzano
2005-02-03 10:45 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 20:04 ` Daniele Venzano
2005-02-04 20:52 ` Olaf Dietsche
2005-02-09 5:19 ` Kevin Puetz
2005-02-09 8:58 ` Miles Bader
2005-02-09 13:44 ` David Roundy
2005-02-03 0:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-02-03 10:24 ` Stelian Pop
[not found] ` <200502030028.j130SNU9004640@terminus.zytor.com>
2005-02-03 3:34 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-03 16:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-02-03 19:32 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-03 20:20 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-03 22:00 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-03 22:28 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 13:01 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 16:06 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 16:22 ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-04 21:53 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 17:03 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 18:39 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 20:05 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 20:11 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 21:40 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 23:31 ` Francois Romieu
2005-02-05 19:38 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-05 23:38 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 15:43 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-08 15:58 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 17:17 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 18:16 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 18:52 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 0:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-09 2:05 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 2:24 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 2:35 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 2:39 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-09 2:47 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 3:40 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0502091128070.7836@localhost.localdomain>
2005-02-09 17:38 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 18:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-02-09 18:48 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 23:31 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 23:52 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 23:22 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-10 0:13 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-10 19:34 ` d.c
2005-02-11 8:40 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-09 2:40 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 2:57 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 3:03 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 5:48 ` Gene Heskett
2005-02-09 9:05 ` Miles Bader
2005-02-09 7:06 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-09 14:48 ` d.c
2005-02-09 15:51 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-09 17:30 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-02-09 17:44 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-10 5:44 ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-10 9:36 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-10 21:17 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11 9:02 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-11 15:30 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-11 15:48 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11 16:18 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11 16:54 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-11 16:13 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-11 17:22 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-11 20:00 ` Larry McVoy
[not found] ` <20050210222403.GA5920@thunk.org>
[not found] ` <or650z6syt.fsf@livre.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>
2005-02-11 15:53 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11 17:24 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-10 5:47 ` James Bruce
2005-02-06 16:40 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-06 17:39 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-07 1:45 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-07 2:10 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 14:57 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 15:19 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 15:24 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-08 15:47 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 15:36 ` Catalin Marinas
2005-02-08 15:58 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-08 16:15 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 17:17 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-08 17:23 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 17:01 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-07 2:16 ` Al Viro
2005-02-04 10:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-02-04 10:59 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 11:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-02-04 11:20 ` Stelian Pop
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-02-09 18:46 Larry McVoy
2005-02-09 20:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-02-09 23:53 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-10 0:14 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-10 0:50 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-10 9:52 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-10 10:11 ` linux
2005-02-10 6:08 ` James Bruce
2005-02-10 15:14 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-10 16:42 Steve Lee
2005-02-10 19:23 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-10 19:50 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-11 18:56 none given
2005-02-11 19:50 ` Larry McVoy
[not found] <fa.hd724f5.h36q2j@ifi.uio.no>
2011-08-18 19:08 ` lucasrangit
2011-08-18 19:22 ` Randy Dunlap
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