From: "d.c" <aradorlinux@yahoo.es>
To: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>
Cc: lm@bitmover.com, stelian@popies.net, romieu@fr.zoreil.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:48:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050209154801.7578bcae.aradorlinux@yahoo.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ord5vatdph.fsf@livre.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>
El 09 Feb 2005 05:06:02 -0200,
Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com> escribió:
> So you've somehow managed to trick most kernel developers into
> granting you power over not only the BK history, in such a way that
> anyone willing to extract all the information available from the BK
> repository and share it with others is forbidden from doing so by the
> license?
BK history is not part of "linux kernel", and those who use BK know why they're
using BK and what are the consecuence so calling them "tricked" is quite
misleading from your part.
I don't understand people. Before BK, linux kernel development *never* had a
"history" and you had to develop against -pre patches. When linus switched
to BK, he said clearly that he wasn't going to change that, and it has not
changed, in fact these days you can use -bk patches which are much better
than -pre's. Then Larry put a CVS gateway just to made people happy and give
them things that have *NEVER* been guaranteed. So, "kernel history" is *not* part
of the "linux kernel development", is just a nice addon for those who optionally
want to use BK, because the _official_ way of getting changes for the linux
kernel are patches at kernel.org which don't have any way of keeping track of
"kernel history", not BK and/or CVS. Everyone who claims the contrary is
wrong, period.
Besides, Larry is exporting most of that story in CVS, so those who accuse
Larry of "stealing our freedom" should think twice that Larry doesn't even
to _listen_ you and he doen't needs to care about your request because
it's not him who decided to use BK, and it's not him who decided to lose
the "kernel history" using a propietary tool. What you really want is change
the official kernel development (GNU diff patches at kernel.org) for something
better that can track all that "kernel history", and you are not going to change
that shouting at Larry because (again) it's *not* him who decided to use BK.
(of course if you ask linus he'll tell exactly what I said, that BK is just a _option_
and that you can get all the patches at kernel.org with all the consequences
- losing the "kernel history" because GNU diff don't really supports that)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-09 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-02 15:54 [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto Stelian Pop
2005-02-02 16:15 ` Lethalman
2005-02-02 16:37 ` Lethalman
2005-02-03 10:34 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-02 21:47 ` Daniele Venzano
2005-02-03 10:45 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 20:04 ` Daniele Venzano
2005-02-04 20:52 ` Olaf Dietsche
2005-02-09 5:19 ` Kevin Puetz
2005-02-09 8:58 ` Miles Bader
2005-02-09 13:44 ` David Roundy
2005-02-03 0:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-02-03 10:24 ` Stelian Pop
[not found] ` <200502030028.j130SNU9004640@terminus.zytor.com>
2005-02-03 3:34 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-03 16:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-02-03 19:32 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-03 20:20 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-03 22:00 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-03 22:28 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 13:01 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 16:06 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 16:22 ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-04 21:53 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 17:03 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 18:39 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 20:05 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 20:11 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 21:40 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 23:31 ` Francois Romieu
2005-02-05 19:38 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-05 23:38 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 15:43 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-08 15:58 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 17:17 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 18:16 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 18:52 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 0:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-09 2:05 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 2:24 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 2:35 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 2:39 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-09 2:47 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 3:40 ` Larry McVoy
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0502091128070.7836@localhost.localdomain>
2005-02-09 17:38 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 18:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-02-09 18:48 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 23:31 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 23:52 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 23:22 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-10 0:13 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-10 19:34 ` d.c
2005-02-11 8:40 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-09 2:40 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 2:57 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 3:03 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 5:48 ` Gene Heskett
2005-02-09 9:05 ` Miles Bader
2005-02-09 7:06 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-09 14:48 ` d.c [this message]
2005-02-09 15:51 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-09 17:30 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-02-09 17:44 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-10 5:44 ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-10 9:36 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-10 21:17 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11 9:02 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-11 15:30 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-11 15:48 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11 16:18 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11 16:54 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-11 16:13 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-11 17:22 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-11 20:00 ` Larry McVoy
[not found] ` <20050210222403.GA5920@thunk.org>
[not found] ` <or650z6syt.fsf@livre.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>
2005-02-11 15:53 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11 17:24 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-10 5:47 ` James Bruce
2005-02-06 16:40 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-06 17:39 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-07 1:45 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-07 2:10 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 14:57 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 15:19 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 15:24 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-08 15:47 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 15:36 ` Catalin Marinas
2005-02-08 15:58 ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-08 16:15 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 17:17 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-08 17:23 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 17:01 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-07 2:16 ` Al Viro
2005-02-04 10:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-02-04 10:59 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 11:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-02-04 11:20 ` Stelian Pop
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-02-09 18:46 Larry McVoy
2005-02-09 20:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-02-09 23:53 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-10 0:14 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-10 0:50 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-10 9:52 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-10 10:11 ` linux
2005-02-10 6:08 ` James Bruce
2005-02-10 15:14 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-10 16:42 Steve Lee
2005-02-10 19:23 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-10 19:50 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-11 18:56 none given
2005-02-11 19:50 ` Larry McVoy
[not found] <fa.hd724f5.h36q2j@ifi.uio.no>
2011-08-18 19:08 ` lucasrangit
2011-08-18 19:22 ` Randy Dunlap
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