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From: Jakob Oestergaard <jakob@unthought.net>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: pageexec@freemail.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: the "Turing Attack" (was: Sabotaged PaXtest)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:58:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050210135845.GT347@unthought.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050210134314.GA4146@elte.hu>

On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 02:43:14PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * pageexec@freemail.hu <pageexec@freemail.hu> wrote:
> 
> > the bigger problem is however that you're once again fixing the
> > symptoms, instead of the underlying problem - not the correct
> > approach/mindset.
> 
> i'll change my approach/mindset when it is proven that "the underlying
> problem" can be solved. (in a deterministic fashion)

I know neither exec-shield nor PaX and therefore have no bias or
preference - I thought I should chirp in on your comment here Ingo...

...
> PaX cannot be a 'little bit pregnant'. (you might argue that exec-shield
> is in the 6th month, but that does not change the fundamental
> end-result: a child will be born ;-)

Yes and no.  I would think that the chances of a child being born are
greater if the pregnancy has lasted successfully up until the 6th month,
compared to a first week pregnancy.

I assume you get my point  :)

-- 

 / jakob


  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-10 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-02 16:51 Sabotaged PaXtest (was: Re: Patch 4/6 randomize the stack pointer) Ingo Molnar
2005-02-02 22:08 ` pageexec
2005-02-03  9:44   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-03 14:20     ` pageexec
2005-02-03 20:20       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-07 14:23         ` pageexec
2005-02-07 21:08           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-08 12:27             ` pageexec
2005-02-08 21:23               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-07 22:36           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-08 12:27             ` pageexec
2005-02-08 13:41               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-08 14:25                 ` Julien TINNES
2005-02-08 16:56                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-08 16:48               ` the "Turing Attack" (was: Sabotaged PaXtest) Ingo Molnar
2005-02-08 22:08                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-10 13:43                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-10 13:58                     ` Jakob Oestergaard [this message]
2005-02-10 15:21                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-10 20:03                         ` David Weinehall
2005-02-11  8:51                           ` Mika Bostrom
2005-02-08 22:41                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-02-03 13:55   ` Sabotaged PaXtest (was: Re: Patch 4/6 randomize the stack pointer) Peter Busser
2005-02-03 14:39     ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-07 12:23       ` pageexec
2005-02-07 18:31       ` John Richard Moser

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