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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	IWAMOTO Toshihiro <iwamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lhms <lhms-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Changing COW detection to be memory hotplug friendly
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:41:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050210194156.GQ18573@opteron.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1108063004.29712.54.camel@localhost>

On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 11:16:44AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> We actually do that, in addition to the more active methods of capturing
> the memory that we're about to remove.

This sounds the best way to go. btw, is this a different codebase from
the one that Toshihiro is testing?

> You're right, I don't really see a problem with ignoring those pages, at
> least in the active migration code.  We would, of course, like to keep
> the number of things that we depend on good faith to get migrated to a
> minimum, but things under I/O are the least of our problems.

Indeed. It's very similar to locked pages. All pages can be pinned for a
transient amount of time, either in the pte or with
PG_pinned/PG_writeback (now perhaps Hugh found a way to drop the pin on
the pte [I'm still unconvinced about that], but sure you're left with
transient pinning with PG_locked or PG_writeback).

> The only thing we might want to do is put something in the rawio code to
> look for the PG_capture pages to ensure that it gives the migration code
> a shot at them every once in a while (when I/O is not in flight,
> obviously).

If there are persistent usages PG_capture sounds a good idea. Perhaps
the whole point that Toshihiro has problem with is that there are really
persistent users that require PG_capture? He mentioned direct IO, that's
not a long time, if something core dump could be a long time.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-10 19:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-03  3:56 [RFC] Changing COW detection to be memory hotplug friendly IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2005-02-07 21:24 ` Hugh Dickins
2005-02-08 16:26   ` Hugh Dickins
2005-02-10  7:59     ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2005-02-10 19:05     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-10 19:16       ` Dave Hansen
2005-02-10 19:41         ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2005-02-10 20:19       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-02-10 20:40         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-11  7:23           ` Hugh Dickins
2005-02-11  8:52             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-11 13:20               ` Hugh Dickins
2005-02-14 17:41                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-14 18:36                   ` Hugh Dickins
2005-02-14 21:41                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-15  3:17                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-09  9:08   ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro

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