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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>
Cc: "Jack O'Quin" <jack.oquin@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	rlrevell@joe-job.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: 2.6.11-rc3-mm2
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:09:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050211020956.GC15058@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050210164727.M24171@build.pdx.osdl.net>

On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 04:47:27PM -0800, Chris Wright wrote:
> * Matt Mackall (mpm@selenic.com) wrote:
> > What happened to the RT rlimit code from Chris?
> 
> I still have it, but I had the impression Ingo didn't like it as a long
> term solution/hack (albeit small) to the scheduler.  Whereas the rt-lsm
> patch is wholly self-contained.

I think it's important to recognize that we're trying to address an
issue that has a much wider potential audience than pro audio users,
and not very far off - what is high end audio performance today will be
expected desktop performance next year.

So I think it's critical that we find solution that's appropriate for
_every single box_, because realistically vendors are going to ship
with this "wholly self-contained" feature turned on by default next
year, at which point the "containment" will be nil and whatever warts
it has will be with us forever.

The rlimit stuff is not perfect, but it's a much better fit for the
UNIX model generally, which is a fairly big win. Having it in the
system unconditionally doesn't trigger the gag reflex in quite the
same way as the LSM approach.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-11  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-10 20:51 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Jack O'Quin
2005-02-11  0:04 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  0:47   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Chris Wright
2005-02-11  2:09     ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2005-02-11  2:22       ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Nick Piggin
2005-02-11  3:26         ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Peter Williams
2005-02-11  3:41           ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Paul Davis
2005-02-11  5:04             ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Nick Piggin
2005-02-11  6:34               ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Peter Williams
2005-02-11  6:42                 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Nick Piggin
2005-02-11  5:09             ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Peter Williams
2005-02-11  6:57             ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  7:54               ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11  8:25                 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  8:48                   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11  8:58                     ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  9:01                       ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11  9:04                   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11  9:27                     ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11 17:49                   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Paul Davis
2005-02-11 19:42                     ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11 19:57                       ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Lee Revell
2005-02-11  8:14       ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11  8:22         ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Christoph Hellwig
2005-02-11  8:41         ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  8:59           ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11  9:40             ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  9:53               ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11 17:37                 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11 17:49                   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11 20:10                     ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11 17:45           ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Paul Davis
2005-02-14  5:21         ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Werner Almesberger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-02-10 10:35 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2005-02-10 13:35 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Christoph Hellwig
2005-02-10 20:01   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2005-02-12 22:43   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Olaf Dietsche
2005-02-10 22:13 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Corey Minyard
2005-02-10 22:42 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-10 23:02   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2005-02-10 23:31     ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-10 23:17 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Adrian Bunk
2005-02-11 16:29 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Yuval Tanny
2005-02-12 14:53   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Henning Rohde
2005-02-14 13:22 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Stefano Rivoir

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