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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com>,
	Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>,
	"Jack O'Quin" <jack.oquin@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	rlrevell@joe-job.com
Subject: Re: 2.6.11-rc3-mm2
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:04:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050211090419.GD3980@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050211082536.GF15058@waste.org>


* Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com> wrote:

> So the comparison boils down to putting a magic gid in a sysfs
> file/module parameter or setting an rlimit with standard tools (PAM,
> etc). I'm really boggled that anyone could prefer the former,
> especially since we had almost this exact debate over what became the
> mlock rlimit!

the big difference to mlock is that for mlock there _is_ a _limit_. For
RT scheduling the priority is _NOT_ a _limit_. Okay? So you give the
false pretense of this being some kind of resource 'limit', while in
fact allowing SCHED_FIFO prio 1 alone enables unprivileged users to lock
up the system.

so i could agree with RLIMIT_NICE (which _is_ a limit), but
RLIMIT_RTPRIO sends the wrong message. The proper rlimit would be
RLIMIT_RT_CPU (the patch i did).

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-02-11  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-10 20:51 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Jack O'Quin
2005-02-11  0:04 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  0:47   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Chris Wright
2005-02-11  2:09     ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  2:22       ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Nick Piggin
2005-02-11  3:26         ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Peter Williams
2005-02-11  3:41           ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Paul Davis
2005-02-11  5:04             ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Nick Piggin
2005-02-11  6:34               ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Peter Williams
2005-02-11  6:42                 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Nick Piggin
2005-02-11  5:09             ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Peter Williams
2005-02-11  6:57             ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  7:54               ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11  8:25                 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  8:48                   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11  8:58                     ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  9:01                       ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11  9:04                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-02-11  9:27                     ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11 17:49                   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Paul Davis
2005-02-11 19:42                     ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11 19:57                       ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Lee Revell
2005-02-11  8:14       ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11  8:22         ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Christoph Hellwig
2005-02-11  8:41         ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  8:59           ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11  9:40             ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11  9:53               ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11 17:37                 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11 17:49                   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-11 20:10                     ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Matt Mackall
2005-02-11 17:45           ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Paul Davis
2005-02-14  5:21         ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Werner Almesberger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-02-10 10:35 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2005-02-10 13:35 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Christoph Hellwig
2005-02-10 20:01   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2005-02-12 22:43   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Olaf Dietsche
2005-02-10 22:13 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Corey Minyard
2005-02-10 22:42 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-10 23:02   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2005-02-10 23:31     ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-10 23:17 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Adrian Bunk
2005-02-11 16:29 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Yuval Tanny
2005-02-12 14:53   ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Henning Rohde
2005-02-14 13:22 ` 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 Stefano Rivoir

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