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From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
	ACPI mailing list <acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	seife@suse.de, rjw@sisk.pl
Subject: Re: [ACPI] Call for help: list of machines with working S3
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:15:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050217101533.GA15721@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1108621005.2096.412.camel@d845pe>

On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 01:16:45AM -0500, Len Brown wrote:

> Pavel,
> I think that it is the BIOS' job on S3-suspend
> to save the video mode.  On S3-resume the BIOS should
> re-POST and restore the video mode.

Should.

But this definitely is not the case on about 80+% of notebooks.

You can save the video state through VESA VBE, and restore it on resume,
but if the BIOS didn't re-POST the video, this will often fail.

> While Linux's X drivers may be able to handle the case
> where X is running -- that doesn't help us with the
> cases where X is not running (a case that Windows
> presumably does not have).
> 
> Besides updated X drivers, which may have complicated
> restore routines for complicated modes, all the other
> techniques for restoring video from Linux are
> hit/miss workarounds for broken platforms.
> 
> To completely solve the Linux S3 video restore issue,
> we need to push the platform and BIOS vendors.

That's correct.

> What am I missing?
 
I'm not sure if you can push the whole industry at once.

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs, SuSE CR

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-17 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-14 21:11 Call for help: list of machines with working S3 Pavel Machek
2005-02-14 21:36 ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-14 23:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-14 23:47   ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-15  6:05 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-02-15 12:12   ` [ACPI] " Lorenzo Colitti
2005-02-15 13:17     ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-02-15 16:07       ` Lorenzo Colitti
2005-02-15 15:41     ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-15 16:15       ` Lorenzo Colitti
2005-02-15 16:16       ` Lorenzo Colitti
2005-02-15 17:42         ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-02-15 20:43           ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-15 21:09             ` Lorenzo Colitti
2005-02-16  1:41               ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-02-16  1:54                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-16  2:47                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-16  8:30                     ` Romano Giannetti
2005-02-16 14:25           ` Kjartan Maraas
2005-02-18 20:49             ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-02-20  9:21               ` Luca Capello
2005-02-21 14:25               ` Kjartan Maraas
2005-02-22 14:33               ` Karol Kozimor
2005-02-15 16:05   ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-02-15 12:55 ` [ACPI] " Norbert Preining
2005-02-15 13:17   ` Karol Kozimor
2005-02-15 16:09   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-15 17:08     ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-15 18:57       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-15 20:21         ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-15 22:40           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-16  9:51         ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-15 19:37       ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-17 11:06         ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-17 19:08         ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-17 20:58           ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-18 10:46             ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-18 13:38               ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-18 18:04                 ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-15 19:47       ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 19:09         ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-16  9:34       ` Romano Giannetti
2005-02-16 14:54         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-16 16:10           ` Romano Giannetti
2005-02-22 22:08       ` Karol Kozimor
2005-02-24 12:37         ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-24 21:36           ` Karol Kozimor
2005-02-25 17:50           ` Proinnsias Breathnach
2005-02-27 16:57           ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-27 18:04             ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-02-15 16:31 ` Vernon Mauery
2005-02-15 21:28 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-02-16  5:54 ` Stefan Schweizer
2005-02-16  8:48   ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-16 15:06     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-16 17:43       ` Stefan Schweizer
2005-02-16 19:26       ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-17  6:16 ` Len Brown
2005-02-17 10:15   ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2005-02-17 23:12     ` Len Brown
2005-02-17 11:00   ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-17 16:18     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-17 16:44       ` Vernon Mauery
2005-02-17 20:13         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-17 19:54       ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 20:34         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-17 20:42           ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 11:02   ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 23:19 ` Luca Capello
2005-02-23 19:30 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-03-02 10:24 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-03-02 10:57   ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-03-03 16:51 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-03-03 17:49 ` Avuton Olrich
2005-03-14  6:19 ` Jan De Luyck
2005-03-14  8:00   ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-14 14:39     ` Jan De Luyck
2005-03-15  8:10     ` [ACPI] " Li Shaohua
2005-03-15 11:34       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-03-15 12:04         ` Pavel Machek

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