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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>,
	torvalds@osdl.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] -stable, how it's going to work.
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:32:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050309103223.C17289@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1110363899.6280.77.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>; from arjan@infradead.org on Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 11:24:58AM +0100

On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 11:24:58AM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 10:17 +0000, Russell King wrote:
> > What about the case (as highlighted in previous discussions) that the
> > stable tree needs a simple "dirty" fix, whereas mainline takes the
> > complex "clean" fix?
> 
> that's the exception I talked about a bit later in my mail. It should be
> rare and very deliberate. And in fact once the mainline change ripples
> out into maturity I rather replace the -stable one with that later on,
> even if it's a bit more invasive. 

Is that really necessary with a stable tree which may only be around
for about 2 months before the next stable tree is forked (which would
have the mature mainline fix in) ?

There is another point here though, which I think is much more important.
Remember that the original issue which caused the -stable tree to be
created was a concern over the testing that Linus' kernels were getting.
Also, realise that by creating a -stable tree, we haven't increased the
number of testers which Linus' kernels are seeing.

Given that, how can we decide that a complex fix has matured enough
in Linus' kernel to warrant replacing a (proven) fix which users are
perfectly happy with in the corresponding -stable tree?

I thought the -stable tree is targeted towards stability, not towards
"lets replace this change with some other because we as developers think
it's better".

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:  2.6 Serial core

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-09 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-09  7:28 [RFC] -stable, how it's going to work Greg KH
2005-03-09  9:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-09 10:10   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-09 10:17     ` Russell King
2005-03-09 10:24       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-09 10:32         ` Russell King [this message]
2005-03-09 10:28       ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-09 14:20   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-03-09 18:00   ` Alan Cox
2005-03-09 18:29     ` Greg KH
2005-03-09 18:29     ` Chris Wright
2005-03-09 19:30     ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-09 18:28   ` Chris Wright
2005-03-09 19:44     ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-09 20:16       ` Chris Wright
2005-03-09 22:49       ` Russell King
2005-03-09 18:34   ` Greg KH
2005-03-09 19:39     ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-09 20:03       ` Greg KH
2005-03-09 20:25   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-03-10 10:00 ` Neil Brown
2005-03-10 10:17   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-11  1:49     ` Neil Brown
2005-03-11  4:58       ` Chris Friesen
2005-03-11  7:07         ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-10 16:43   ` Greg KH
2005-03-10 17:27     ` Lee Revell
2005-03-10 17:31       ` Greg KH
2005-03-10 18:25         ` Lee Revell
2005-03-11 10:13           ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-10 17:43       ` Chris Wright
2005-03-10 17:51         ` Lee Revell
2005-03-10 17:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11  0:10     ` Neil Brown
2005-03-11  2:43       ` J. Bruce Fields

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