From: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
To: Felix Matathias <felix@nevis.columbia.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: select() doesn't respect SO_RCVLOWAT ?
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:43:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050311054307.GF30052@alpha.home.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0503101645190.29442@shang.nevis.columbia.edu>
On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 04:58:51PM -0500, Felix Matathias wrote:
>
> I am running a 2.4.21-9.0.3.ELsmp #1 kernel and I can setsockopt and
> getsockopt correctly the SO_RCVLOWAT option, but select() seems to mark a
> socket readable even if a single byte is ready to be read. Then, a read()
> blocks until the specified number of bytes in SO_RCVLOWAT makes it to the
> socket buffer.
as discussed in a previous thread, if you use select(), you should also
use non-blocking sockets. There are cases where select() can wake you up
without anything to read, eg if there is a packet waiting with a wrong
checksum.
> This is the exact opposite behaviour of what I yould have
> expected/desired. Our application receives data at many Khz rate and we
> want to avoid reading the socket until a predetermined amount of data is
> sent, to avoid partial reads. SO_RCVLOWAT seemed to be a nice way to
> implement that.
I too came across this problem a long time ago and concluded that LOWAT
was not really usable on Linux. But in the end, this is not really a big
deal, because as long as your application doesn't eat all CPU, it does
not change anything performance-wise, and when it becomes to eat a lot
of CPU, the latency will increase, letting more data come in when you
do one read.
> An earlier message by Alan Cox was a bit cryptic:
>
> "But is the cost of all those special case checks and all the handling
> for it such as select computing if enough tcp packets together accumulated
> worth the cost on every app not using LOWAT for the microscopic gain given
> that essentially nobody uses it."
>
> Does this mean that select() in Linux will wake up no matter what
> SO_RCVLOWAT is set to ?
Yes.
Regards,
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-11 5:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-10 21:58 select() doesn't respect SO_RCVLOWAT ? Felix Matathias
2005-03-11 5:43 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2005-03-11 19:09 ` Alan Cox
2005-03-11 20:26 ` Felix Matathias
2005-03-14 13:24 ` Alan Cox
2005-03-14 13:34 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2005-03-22 2:30 ` Robert White
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