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From: Stefan Rompf <stefan@loplof.de>
To: Felix von Leitner <felix-linuxkernel@fefe.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.11: USB broken on nforce4, ipv6 still broken, centrino speedstep even more broken than in 2.6.10
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:24:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200503121124.17295.stefan@loplof.de> (raw)

Hi,

Felix von Leitner wrote:

> Did I mention that I'm really tired of you putting stones into ATI's
> way?  You might believe you have a right to piss everyone off, after all
> people get what they paid for.  Or maybe you think you are on a crusade
> to promote open source software.  But if you keep alienating me (I'm a
> software developer) like this, I spend more time working around this
> bullshit and less time writing free software.  In the end, everyone
> loses.  I sincerely hope some day you people are done pissing in the
> pool and can create at least some semblance of semi-stable APIs.  This
> house is never going to be safe for living until you stop digging around
> the foundation.

I cannot agree more. Many developers and maintainers say they don't care about 
binary modules - but I do have the impression a few of them care a lot by 
doing changes in a way that they break the current NVIDIA drivers on every 
new kernel release. As I read now, it seems to be the same way with ATI. Even 
GPL drivers developed outside the kernel are disfigured over and over with 
#ifdefs on KERNEL_VERSION.

While I fully understand that no developer wants to support binary modules, I 
would appreciate a little less hostile behaviour. And btw., instable API 
leads to an instable kernel because not everyone can follow the changes.

Stefan

             reply	other threads:[~2005-03-12 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-12 10:24 Stefan Rompf [this message]
2005-03-12 20:34 ` 2.6.11: USB broken on nforce4, ipv6 still broken, centrino speedstep even more broken than in 2.6.10 Greg KH
     [not found] <3GZyA-16B-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-03-12  5:06 ` Robert Hancock
2005-03-12  5:19   ` Andrew Morton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-11 20:21 Felix von Leitner
2005-03-12  1:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-13 21:30   ` Felix von Leitner
2005-03-12  1:33 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-22  0:33   ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-22  2:18     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2005-03-22 16:22       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2005-03-12  1:35 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-12  3:54   ` Adam Belay
2005-03-22  0:32     ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-22  1:20       ` Adam Belay
2005-03-22 22:29         ` Felix von Leitner
2005-03-24 23:33           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2005-03-25  0:17             ` Felix von Leitner
2005-03-25 13:37         ` Bruno Ducrot
2005-03-13 21:31   ` Felix von Leitner
2005-03-12  3:51 ` Adam Belay

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