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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities]
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:37:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050314083717.GA19337@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0503140026360.10211@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>

Hi!

> >>I'm fascinated that not a single person picked up on this problem
> >>whilst the agp code sat in -mm. Even if DRI isn't enabled,
> >>every box out there with AGP that uses the generic routines
> >>(which is a majority), should have barfed loudly when it hit
> >>this check during boot.  Does no-one read dmesg output any more ?
> >
> >Its way too long these days. Like "so long it overflows even enlarged
> >buffer". We should prune these messages down to "one line per hw
> >device or serious problems only".
> 
> especially if you turn on encryption options. I can understand that output 
> being useful for debugging, but there should be a way to not deal with it 
> in the normal case.

Perhaps we could have a rule like

"non-experimental driver may only print out one line per actual
device?"

(and perhaps: dmesg output for boot going okay should fit on one screen).

Or perhaps we should have warnings-like regression testing.

"New kernel 2.8.17 came: 3 errors, 135 warnings, 1890 lines of dmesg
junk".
								Pavel
-- 
People were complaining that M$ turns users into beta-testers...
...jr ghea gurz vagb qrirybcref, naq gurl frrz gb yvxr vg gung jnl!

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-14  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-11  1:24 AGP bogosities Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11  2:04 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11  2:11   ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11  2:18     ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11  2:38       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11  4:02         ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11  4:30           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11 16:39             ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11 17:59               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-03-11 18:04                 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-12  3:27                   ` Mike Werner
2005-03-12  3:58                     ` Dave Jones
2005-03-13  3:13                       ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-13  4:08                         ` Dave Jones
2005-03-13  4:28                           ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 22:43                 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11 23:22                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-03-12  0:12                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-12  1:34                     ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11 18:04   ` James Simmons
2005-03-11 18:08     ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11  2:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11  2:12 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11  2:18   ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11  2:23     ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11  2:40       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11  2:49         ` Dave Jones
2005-03-12 20:49           ` Greg KH
2005-03-11  2:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11 22:18       ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2005-03-11 22:26         ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 22:33           ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-03-11 23:52             ` Gene Heskett
2005-03-11 22:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11 23:09           ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-12  0:06             ` Gene Heskett
2005-03-14  8:17           ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-14  8:27             ` David Lang
2005-03-14  8:37               ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-03-14 16:55                 ` dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities] Jesse Barnes
2005-03-14 17:03                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-14 17:17                   ` Dave Jones
2005-03-14 17:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-14 17:27                     ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-14 17:27                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-15 20:18                     ` Greg Stark
2005-03-14 18:12                   ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-14 19:07                     ` Lee Revell
2005-03-20  6:44                       ` David Lang
2005-03-23  0:37                       ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-23  0:53                         ` Lee Revell
2005-03-23  1:13                           ` Dave Jones
2005-03-23  1:29                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-23  8:21                             ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-03-23 16:14                               ` Dave Jones
2005-03-23 16:49                                 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-03-23 17:17                                   ` Dave Jones
2005-03-23 14:10                             ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-23  8:19                           ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-03-30  9:45                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-23  0:53                         ` Zan Lynx
2005-03-23  0:55                         ` Grant Coady
2005-03-14 21:55                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 22:08                     ` David Lang
2005-03-15  0:02                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-11 22:42         ` AGP bogosities Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-11 22:47           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-12 17:09         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-12 22:26           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2005-03-12 22:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11  2:35   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11  2:43     ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11  2:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11 22:11 ` J.A. Magallon
2005-03-11 22:18   ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 22:46     ` J.A. Magallon
2005-03-11 23:16       ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-03-11 23:17         ` J.A. Magallon
2005-03-11 23:23           ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-03-11 23:24             ` J.A. Magallon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-30 10:19 dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities] tvrtko.ursulin

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