From: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: dtor_core@ameritech.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Changes to the driver model class code.
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:15:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050315201503.GA3591@isilmar.linta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050315193415.GA26299@kroah.com>
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 11:34:15AM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > And what about device_driver and device structure? Are they going to
> > be changed over to be separately allocated linked objects?
>
> The driver stuff probably will be, and the device stuff possibly.
> However, they are used by a very small ammount of core code (the bus
> drivers), so changing that interface is not that important at this time.
So this means every device will have yet another reference count, and you
need to be aware of _each_ lifetime to write correct code. And the
_reference counting_ is the hard thing to get right, so we should make
_that_ easier. The existing class API was a step towards this direction, and
with the changes you're suggesting here we'd do two jumps backwards.
> > If not then its enouther reason to keep original class interface -
> > uniformity of driver model interface.
>
> Ease-of-use trumps uniformity
Ease-of-use, maybe. However, it also means
ease-of-getting-reference-counting-wrong. And reference counting trumps it
all :)
Thanks,
Dominik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-15 20:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-15 17:08 [RFC] Changes to the driver model class code Greg KH
2005-03-15 17:09 ` Greg KH
2005-03-15 17:10 ` Greg KH
2005-03-15 17:10 ` Greg KH
2005-03-15 17:11 ` Greg KH
2005-03-15 17:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-15 19:34 ` Greg KH
2005-03-15 19:47 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-15 20:15 ` Dominik Brodowski [this message]
2005-03-15 22:14 ` Greg KH
2005-03-16 1:01 ` Dominik Brodowski
2005-03-16 3:42 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-27 14:42 ` Dominik Brodowski
2005-03-15 19:08 ` Dominik Brodowski
2005-03-15 19:30 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-15 19:34 ` Sean
2005-03-15 19:45 ` John Lenz
2005-03-15 19:51 ` Greg KH
2005-03-15 20:06 ` Dominik Brodowski
2005-03-15 20:14 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-15 20:35 ` David Brownell
2005-03-15 20:48 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-15 21:14 ` David Brownell
2005-03-15 21:23 ` Dominik Brodowski
2005-03-15 22:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-15 22:29 ` David Brownell
2005-03-16 23:16 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-17 6:17 ` Greg KH
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