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From: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH] driver core: Separate platform device name from platform device number
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:35:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050325183534.GB4192@linux-sh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050325181014.GA13436@kroah.com>

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On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 10:10:14AM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > This might make sense for devices that end in numbers, but does it really
> > make sense for devices that don't?
> 
> Then fix those drivers to not put the number in there if they don't have
> one :)
> 
But they do have non -1 ids, the device name itself just doesn't end in a
number. In this event, the delimiter makes no sense.

These drivers are expecting that you will have <devicename><id>, and
application code is expecting the same. /dev follows this convention too,
I don't see this as being an unreasonable expectation.

If anything, serial8250 is broken and should rename itself to something
not ending in a number. It's not nice when one driver exhibits a corner
case and decides to change the semantics for everyone else.

> I don't see the serial8250 driver adding that .0 to it on my machines,
> does this happen on yours?
> 
Yes, we end up having /sys/devices/platform/serial8250 and serial8250.0.
Where serial8250.0 ends up as:

drwxr-xr-x    3 0        0               0 Jan  1 00:00 .
drwxr-xr-x   18 0        0               0 Jan  1 00:00 ..
lrwxrwxrwx    1 0        0               0 Jan  1 00:00 bus -> ../../../bus/platform
-rw-r--r--    1 0        0            4096 Jan  1 00:00 detach_state
lrwxrwxrwx    1 0        0               0 Jan  1 00:00 driver -> ../../../bus/platform/drivers/serial8250
drwxr-xr-x    2 0        0               0 Jan  1 00:00 power

That doesn't really bother me, having serial8250.0 is more sensible then
serial82500. For this type of corner case the delimiter makes sense, but
not in a blanket sense.

> What userspace code are you referring to?
> 
Anything that expects that it can open a /sys/devices/platform/<device><id>
path. I have a few applications like this, I have no reason to doubt that
others do too. I don't see any reason to go out of the way to break this
convention if the end of the device name is not a number.

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-25 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-10  0:34 [BK PATCH] Driver core and kobject updates for 2.6.11 Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34 ` [PATCH] Kobject: remove some unneeded exports Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34   ` [PATCH] Add 2.4.x cpufreq /proc and sysctl interface removal feature-removal-schedule Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34     ` [PATCH] cpufreq 2.4 interface removal schedule Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34       ` [PATCH] driver core: Separate platform device name from platform device number Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34         ` [PATCH] class core: export MAJOR/MINOR to the hotplug env Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34           ` [PATCH] block " Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34             ` [PATCH] class_simple: pass dev_t to the class core Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34               ` [PATCH] usb: class driver " Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                 ` [PATCH] i2c: " Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                   ` [PATCH] videodev: " Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                     ` [PATCH] driver core: clean driver unload Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                       ` [PATCH] Driver core: add "bus" symlink to class/block devices Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                         ` [PATCH] floppy.c: pass physical device to device registration Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                           ` [PATCH] kset: make ksets have a spinlock, and use that to lock their lists Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                             ` [PATCH] sysdev: make system_subsys static as no one else needs access to it Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                               ` [PATCH] kref: make kref_put return if this was the last put call Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                                 ` [PATCH] USB: move usb core to use class_simple instead of it's own class functions Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                                   ` [PATCH] kmap: remove usage of rwsem from kobj_map Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                                     ` [PATCH] sysdev: fix the name of the list of drivers to be a sane name Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                                       ` [PATCH] sysdev: remove the rwsem usage from this subsystem Greg KH
2005-03-10  0:34                                         ` [PATCH] class: add a semaphore to struct class, and use that instead of the subsystem rwsem Greg KH
2005-03-25 18:01         ` [PATCH] driver core: Separate platform device name from platform device number Paul Mundt
2005-03-25 18:10           ` Greg KH
2005-03-25 18:35             ` Paul Mundt [this message]
2005-03-25 19:38               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-25 19:58                 ` Paul Mundt
2005-03-25 20:17                   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-25 20:25                   ` Russell King
2005-03-25 20:56                     ` Paul Mundt
2005-03-25 21:03                       ` Russell King
2005-03-25 22:15                         ` Paul Mundt
2005-03-10  2:23     ` [PATCH] Add 2.4.x cpufreq /proc and sysctl interface removal feature-removal-schedule Dave Jones
2005-03-10  4:56     ` Dominik Brodowski

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