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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <gilbertd@treblig.org>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>, Aaron Gyes <floam@sh.nu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!.
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:35:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050327183522.GM4285@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050327180417.GD3815@gallifrey>

On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 07:04:17PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Kyle Moffett (mrmacman_g4@mac.com) wrote:
> 
> > <flame type="Binary Driver Hatred">
> > NOTE: I *strongly* discourage binary drivers.  They're crap and 
> > frustrate poor PowerPC users like me.
> 
> I mostly agree - there is one case where I think they *might*
> be acceptable; (and I think the original poster *may* fall
> into this category).
> 
> If you are making a very specialist piece of equipment; not
> the type of thing you can go and plug into any old PC; but
> say an entire box with some obscure piece of hardware in
> that no one would want to buy as a seperate add on. I just
> don't see the need to force someone to make drivers for
> this type of thing public.
>...

And then the user want to upgrade the 2.0 kernel that shipped with this 
box although the company that made the hardware went bankrupt some years 
ago.

If the user has the source of the driver, he can port the driver or hire 
someone to port the driver (this "obscure piece of hardware" might also 
be an expensive piece of hardware).

Or if the driver is in the kernel sources, it might have even been 
ported.

> Dave

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-27 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-27  1:15 Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!! Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27  1:29 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27  2:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27  8:57   ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 17:09     ` Willy Tarreau
     [not found]   ` <1111913399.6297.28.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-27 17:40     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 17:52       ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-27 17:58         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 18:04       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2005-03-27 18:35         ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2005-03-27 18:46           ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 19:16           ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27 19:30             ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-28  1:54               ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-28  9:27                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 12:04                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 13:12                   ` linux-os
2005-03-28 13:46                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 14:50                     ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]                   ` <1112016850.6003.13.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-28 13:57                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 23:43                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29  0:21                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29  0:56                           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29  1:27                             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29 12:15                               ` linux-os
2005-03-29 12:29                                 ` Sean
2005-03-30 19:47                                 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-30 19:57                                   ` linux-os
2005-03-31 11:35                                     ` Sean
2005-03-31 12:34                                       ` linux-os
2005-03-31 14:20                                         ` Sean
2005-03-31 22:55                                         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-30 23:30                                 ` John Pearson
2005-04-03 14:07                                   ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29 16:31                             ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-30 14:38                               ` Olivier Galibert
2005-03-30 19:49                                 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29  1:22                           ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29  1:31                             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 20:47                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-27 19:37             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 21:22             ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-27 23:09             ` Greg KH
2005-03-28 13:14             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-27 18:12   ` Greg KH
2005-03-29  1:04     ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29  3:33       ` Greg KH
2005-03-29  4:03         ` Zan Lynx
2005-03-29  4:44           ` Greg KH
2005-04-03 23:41           ` Mark Lord
2005-04-04  4:01             ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-04  7:15               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-03-29  4:28         ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29  4:45           ` Greg KH
2005-03-29  5:01             ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29  5:05               ` Greg KH
2005-03-29  5:29             ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29  5:37               ` Brian Gerst
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-28  2:04 Aaron Gyes
2005-03-28  1:03 Albert Cahalan
2005-03-27  7:21 Manfred Spraul
2005-03-27  5:20 Chuck Ebbert
2005-03-26 17:52 Mark Fortescue
2005-03-26 18:28 ` Greg KH
2005-03-26 20:34   ` Lee Revell
2005-03-26 20:46     ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27  0:48     ` Greg KH
     [not found]       ` <1111885480.1312.9.camel@mindpipe>
2005-03-27  3:20         ` Greg KH
2005-03-27  3:30           ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27 18:10             ` Greg KH
2005-03-27 18:37               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-27 22:01                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 23:54                   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28  1:39                     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-28  1:50                       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28  9:31                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 14:45                         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 22:41                 ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-28  0:53               ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-03-27 15:04     ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28  3:56       ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29  2:37     ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-03-29  5:58       ` Jim Crilly
2005-03-28 16:52   ` Mark Fortescue
2005-03-28 18:38     ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29  3:36     ` Greg KH
2005-03-29  6:17     ` Kevin Puetz
2005-03-27 12:42 ` Sean
2005-03-27 13:53   ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-03-27 15:06     ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28 13:12       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-29  3:41         ` Lee Revell
2005-03-29  1:53       ` David Schwartz
2005-03-29  2:06         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29 19:00           ` David Schwartz
2005-03-30 14:15             ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-02  2:11               ` David Schwartz
2005-03-27 20:50 ` James Courtier-Dutton

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