From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
Mark Fortescue <mark@mtfhpc.demon.co.uk>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!.
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:39:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050328013902.GK4285@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1111967692.27381.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 06:54:52PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 00:01 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >
> > How do you define "proven in court"?
> >
> > Decided by an US judge based on US laws?
> > Decided by a German judge based on German laws?
> > Decided by a Chinese judge based on Chinese laws?
> > ...
> >
>
> OK, I was talking about US courts since that case was done in the US.
> But this is all what I remember about reading some 10 years ago. So I
> could be all wrong about what happened. I don't have any references and
> I'm too busy now to look them up. So I may be just speaking out of my
> ass. :-)
>
> > If you distribute software you can be sued in every country you
> > distribute it.
> >
> > E.g. Harald Welte is currently quite successful with legal actions in
> > Germany against companies that distribute Linux-based routers in Germany
> > without offering the source of the GPL'ed software they use.
>
> Your talking about something completely different. Yes, it is quite
> explicit if you modify the source, and distribute it in binary only
> form. I'm talking about writing a separate module that links with the
> GPL code dynamically. So that the code is compiled different from the
> GPL code. So the only common part is the API. Now is this a derived
> work?
>...
My point was a bit different:
Harald's action was meant as an example, that such things can be brought
to court in virtually every country in the world.
And a court decision in e.g. the USA might not have any influence on a
court decision in e.g. Germany.
Some people seem to think that it was enough if something was OK
according to US law - but that's simply wrong.
> -- Steve
cu
Adrian
--
"Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed
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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-26 17:52 Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!! Mark Fortescue
2005-03-26 18:28 ` Greg KH
2005-03-26 20:34 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-26 20:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 0:48 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <1111885480.1312.9.camel@mindpipe>
2005-03-27 3:20 ` Greg KH
2005-03-27 3:30 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27 18:10 ` Greg KH
2005-03-27 18:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-27 22:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 23:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 1:39 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2005-03-28 1:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 9:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 14:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 22:41 ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-28 0:53 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-03-27 15:04 ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28 3:56 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29 2:37 ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-03-29 5:58 ` Jim Crilly
2005-03-28 16:52 ` Mark Fortescue
2005-03-28 18:38 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29 3:36 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 6:17 ` Kevin Puetz
2005-03-27 12:42 ` Sean
2005-03-27 13:53 ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-03-27 15:06 ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28 13:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-29 3:41 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-29 1:53 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-29 2:06 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29 19:00 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-30 14:15 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-02 2:11 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-27 20:50 ` James Courtier-Dutton
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-27 1:15 Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27 1:29 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27 2:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 8:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 17:09 ` Willy Tarreau
[not found] ` <1111913399.6297.28.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-27 17:40 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 17:52 ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-27 17:58 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 18:04 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2005-03-27 18:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 18:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 19:16 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27 19:30 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-28 1:54 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-28 9:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 12:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 13:12 ` linux-os
2005-03-28 13:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 14:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
[not found] ` <1112016850.6003.13.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-28 13:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 23:43 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 0:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29 0:56 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29 1:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29 12:15 ` linux-os
2005-03-29 12:29 ` Sean
2005-03-30 19:47 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-30 19:57 ` linux-os
2005-03-31 11:35 ` Sean
2005-03-31 12:34 ` linux-os
2005-03-31 14:20 ` Sean
2005-03-31 22:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-30 23:30 ` John Pearson
2005-04-03 14:07 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29 16:31 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-30 14:38 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-03-30 19:49 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29 1:22 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 1:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 20:47 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-27 19:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 21:22 ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-27 23:09 ` Greg KH
2005-03-28 13:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-27 18:12 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 1:04 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 3:33 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 4:03 ` Zan Lynx
2005-03-29 4:44 ` Greg KH
2005-04-03 23:41 ` Mark Lord
2005-04-04 4:01 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-04 7:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-03-29 4:28 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 4:45 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 5:01 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 5:05 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 5:29 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 5:37 ` Brian Gerst
2005-03-27 5:20 Chuck Ebbert
2005-03-27 7:21 Manfred Spraul
2005-03-28 1:03 Albert Cahalan
2005-03-28 2:04 Aaron Gyes
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