From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Aaron Gyes <floam@sh.nu>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!.
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:33:50 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050329033350.GA6990@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1112058277.14563.4.camel@localhost>
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 05:04:37PM -0800, Aaron Gyes wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 10:12 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > No, that is not the general consensus at all. Please search the
> > archives and the web for summaries of this discussion topic the last
> > time it came up.
> >
> > greg k-h
>
> Hi. I've searched the archives about this stuff. It looks like you
> attempted to change the EXPORT_SYMBOL's to EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL for sysfs
> stuff back in February, and the issue in general has come up many times.
I only tried to change the class_simple code at that time. This was
because the entire other driver core code was converted by the author of
that code at the same time. The reason people complained about the
class_simple code was because of vmware and nvidia.
Since then, vmware has stated that they don't even like sysfs and udev,
and dropped support for it entirely. Also, nvidia has told me that they
do not like udev either, so they don't care about the sysfs code too.
> A few people have made the point that Linus has said that changing
> EXPORT_SYMBOL to EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL is not okay, that they are supposed
> to start off as EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL or somesuch. And it seems last time
> you tried it, something made you change it back.
Yes, I was asked nicely to do so by some people I respect. Since then,
I sought out the only closed source users of this code that I could
find, and consulted them for what to do. As mentioned above, neither
company has a problem with me doing this.
Also, the code has undergone a rewrite, fixing many issues, and changing
the way things work to tie more closely into the main driver core code.
As such, the class_simple code is now just gone, there is no such need
for it. And as such, the new code contains the _GPL markings, as I do
not think that _anyone_ can try to claim that their code would not be a
derived work of Linux who wants to use it (as no other OS has such a
driver model interface.)
> Can you explain this, please?
I hope the above explanation is acceptable. If you have further
questions, please do not hesitate to ask. And I would personally like
to thank you for your civil tone. My current inbox reflects the rants
of people without such civility at this time.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-29 3:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-27 1:15 Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!! Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27 1:29 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27 2:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 8:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 17:09 ` Willy Tarreau
[not found] ` <1111913399.6297.28.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-27 17:40 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 17:52 ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-27 17:58 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 18:04 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2005-03-27 18:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 18:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 19:16 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27 19:30 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-28 1:54 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-28 9:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 12:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 13:12 ` linux-os
2005-03-28 13:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 14:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
[not found] ` <1112016850.6003.13.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-28 13:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 23:43 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 0:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29 0:56 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29 1:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29 12:15 ` linux-os
2005-03-29 12:29 ` Sean
2005-03-30 19:47 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-30 19:57 ` linux-os
2005-03-31 11:35 ` Sean
2005-03-31 12:34 ` linux-os
2005-03-31 14:20 ` Sean
2005-03-31 22:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-30 23:30 ` John Pearson
2005-04-03 14:07 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29 16:31 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-30 14:38 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-03-30 19:49 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29 1:22 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 1:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 20:47 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-27 19:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 21:22 ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-27 23:09 ` Greg KH
2005-03-28 13:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-27 18:12 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 1:04 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 3:33 ` Greg KH [this message]
2005-03-29 4:03 ` Zan Lynx
2005-03-29 4:44 ` Greg KH
2005-04-03 23:41 ` Mark Lord
2005-04-04 4:01 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-04 7:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-03-29 4:28 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 4:45 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 5:01 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 5:05 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 5:29 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 5:37 ` Brian Gerst
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-28 2:04 Aaron Gyes
2005-03-28 1:03 Albert Cahalan
2005-03-27 7:21 Manfred Spraul
2005-03-27 5:20 Chuck Ebbert
2005-03-26 17:52 Mark Fortescue
2005-03-26 18:28 ` Greg KH
2005-03-26 20:34 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-26 20:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 0:48 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <1111885480.1312.9.camel@mindpipe>
2005-03-27 3:20 ` Greg KH
2005-03-27 3:30 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27 18:10 ` Greg KH
2005-03-27 18:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-27 22:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 23:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 1:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-28 1:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 9:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 14:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 22:41 ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-28 0:53 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-03-27 15:04 ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28 3:56 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29 2:37 ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-03-29 5:58 ` Jim Crilly
2005-03-28 16:52 ` Mark Fortescue
2005-03-28 18:38 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29 3:36 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 6:17 ` Kevin Puetz
2005-03-27 12:42 ` Sean
2005-03-27 13:53 ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-03-27 15:06 ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28 13:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-29 3:41 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-29 1:53 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-29 2:06 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29 19:00 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-30 14:15 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-02 2:11 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-27 20:50 ` James Courtier-Dutton
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20050329033350.GA6990@kroah.com \
--to=greg@kroah.com \
--cc=floam@sh.nu \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mrmacman_g4@mac.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox