From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] new fifo I/O elevator that really does nothing at all
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:13:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050330071357.GB16636@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4249D4C7.90808@tmr.com>
On Tue, Mar 29 2005, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
> >On Mon, Mar 28 2005, Chen, Kenneth W wrote:
> >
> >>The noop elevator is still too fat for db transaction processing
> >>workload. Since the db application already merged all blocks before
> >>sending it down, the I/O presented to the elevator are actually not
> >>merge-able anymore. Since I/O are also random, we don't want to sort
> >>them either. However the noop elevator is still doing a linear search
> >>on the entire list of requests in the queue. A noop elevator after
> >>all isn't really noop.
> >>
> >>We are proposing a true no-op elevator algorithm, no merge, no
> >>nothing. Just do first in and first out list management for the I/O
> >>request. The best name I can come up with is "FIFO". I also piggy
> >>backed the code onto noop-iosched.c. I can easily pull those code
> >>into a separate file if people object. Though, I hope Jens is OK with
> >>it.
> >
> >
> >It's not quite ok, because you don't honor the insertion point in
> >fifo_add_request. The only 'fat' part of the noop io scheduler is the
> >merge stuff, the original plan was to move that to a hash table lookup
> >instead like the other io schedulers do. So I would suggest just
> >changing noop to hash the request on the end point for back merges and
> >forget about front merges, since they are rare anyways. Hmm actually,
> >the last merge hint should catch most of the merges at almost zero cost.
>
> Making the noop faster is clearly a good thing, but some database
> software may depend on transaction order as provided by a true fifo
> process. It would be nice to have both.
Just look at the code. It does FIFO for any request that _isn't_
specified as ELEVATOR_INSERT_FRONT - which means any fs request, or any
plain pc request. There is no specific reordering going on.
Drivers expect to be able to add a request back at the head, for eg
retrying it after a QUEUE_BUSY or similar condition.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-30 7:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-29 1:48 [patch] new fifo I/O elevator that really does nothing at all Chen, Kenneth W
2005-03-29 8:06 ` Jens Axboe
2005-03-29 18:50 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-03-29 20:04 ` Jens Axboe
2005-03-29 20:07 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-04-05 14:54 ` Jens Axboe
2005-04-06 0:12 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-03-29 22:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-03-30 7:13 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
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2005-04-12 17:58 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-04-13 7:45 ` Jens Axboe
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