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From: Greg Banks <gnb@sgi.com>
To: Jakob Oestergaard <jakob@unthought.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bdflush/rpciod high CPU utilization, profile does not make sense
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 02:01:57 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050407160157.GD8579@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050407153848.GN347@unthought.net>

On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 05:38:48PM +0200, Jakob Oestergaard wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 09:19:06AM +1000, Greg Banks wrote:
> ...
> > How large is the client's RAM? 
> 
> 2GB - (32 bit kernel because it's dual PIII, so I use highmem)

Ok, that's probably not enough to fully trigger some of the problems
I've seen on large-memory NFS clients.

> A few more details:
> 
> With standard VM settings, the client will be laggy during the copy, but
> it will also have a load average around 10 (!)   And really, the only
> thing I do with it is one single 'cp' operation.  The CPU hogs are
> pdflush, rpciod/0 and rpciod/1.

NFS writes of single files much larger than client RAM still have
interesting issues.

> I tweaked the VM a bit, put the following in /etc/sysctl.conf:
>  vm.dirty_writeback_centisecs=100
>  vm.dirty_expire_centisecs=200
> 
> The defaults are 500 and 3000 respectively...

Yes, you want more frequent and smaller writebacks.  It may help to
reduce vm.dirty_ratio and possibly vm.dirty_background_ratio.

> This improved things a lot; the client is now "almost not very laggy",
> and load stays in the saner 1-2 range.
> 
> Still, system CPU utilization is very high (still from rpciod and
> pdflush - more rpciod and less pdflush though),

This is probably the rpciod's and pdflush all trying to do things
at the same time and contending for the BKL.

> During the copy I typically see:
> 
> nfs_write_data  681   952 480  8 1 : tunables  54 27 8 : slabdata 119 119 108
> nfs_page      15639 18300  64 61 1 : tunables 120 60 8 : slabdata 300 300 180

That's not so bad, it's only about 3% of the system's pages.

Greg.
-- 
Greg Banks, R&D Software Engineer, SGI Australian Software Group.
I don't speak for SGI.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-07 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-06 16:01 bdflush/rpciod high CPU utilization, profile does not make sense Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-06 21:28 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-07 15:28   ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-06 23:19 ` Greg Banks
2005-04-07 15:38   ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-07 16:01     ` Greg Banks [this message]
2005-04-07 16:17     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-09 21:35       ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-09 21:52         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-11  7:48           ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-11 12:35             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-11 13:47               ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-11 14:35                 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-11 14:41                   ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-11 15:21                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-11 15:42                       ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-12  1:03                         ` Greg Banks
2005-04-12  9:28                           ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-19 19:45                             ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-19 22:46                               ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-20 13:57                                 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-24  7:15                                   ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-04-25  3:09                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-25 13:50                                       ` Jakob Oestergaard

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