From: Raul Miller <moth@debian.org>
To: debian-legal@lists.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:17:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050411161744.C32136@links.magenta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKIEOFDAAB.davids@webmaster.com>; from davids@webmaster.com on Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 01:18:11PM -0700
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 01:18:11PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote:
> You could do that be means of a contract, but I don't think you
> could it do by means of a copyright license. The problem is that there
> is no right to control the distribution of derivative works for you
> to withhold from me.
While you are may be reporting your thoughts accurately, this problem
doesn't seem to be a legal issue.
The GPL explicitly discusses this issue (section 5), and a number of
people have already posted with similar commentary.
Anyways, one thing to keep in mind here is that if copyright law doesn't
allow the GPL's grant of permission to be conditional then copyright
law would not allow other copyright grants to be conditional.
Another way of looking at this is that the GPL is a copyright license --
it represents the terms and conditions under which copyrights are granted,
and it also represents those permissions.
--
Raul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-11 20:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 198+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <08Gc5.A.AFC.QJPVCB@murphy>
2005-04-07 12:15 ` non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice Humberto Massa
2005-04-08 2:10 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-08 3:05 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08 3:56 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-08 7:57 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 20:48 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-09 11:19 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-10 3:07 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-10 4:20 ` Glenn Maynard
2005-04-10 20:18 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11 1:34 ` Glenn Maynard
2005-04-11 2:40 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11 20:17 ` Raul Miller [this message]
2005-04-11 11:43 ` Anthony DeRobertis
2005-04-11 0:26 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-11 2:40 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08 4:05 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-08 7:54 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 7:51 ` Sven Luther
[not found] <9rcYQC.A.LsH.E_qXCB@murphy>
2005-04-14 18:26 ` Humberto Massa
[not found] <JMgucB.A.0PB.b3cXCB@murphy>
2005-04-14 12:18 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-14 17:44 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-14 18:43 ` Raul Miller
[not found] <_WpYEC.A.JPD.F9BXCB@murphy>
2005-04-12 20:23 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-14 1:37 ` David Schwartz
[not found] <Xuc2QB.A._uB.h6_WCB@murphy>
2005-04-12 17:29 ` Humberto Massa
[not found] <d03KdB.A.m0F.3RtWCB@murphy>
2005-04-12 11:44 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-12 19:01 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 21:31 ` Raul Miller
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2005-04-12 9:41 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-12 16:44 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 17:50 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-12 19:05 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 21:37 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-14 1:54 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-14 5:13 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-12 18:53 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-12 19:15 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 20:00 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-12 22:45 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-13 5:46 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-13 6:28 ` Sean Kellogg
2005-04-13 13:55 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-13 9:17 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-11 16:12 Marco Colombo
2005-04-11 16:25 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-11 20:54 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-11 21:07 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-12 0:40 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-12 5:40 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-12 16:14 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-12 18:45 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-13 2:23 ` Zan Lynx
2005-04-13 14:53 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-13 19:47 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-14 18:03 ` Marco Colombo
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2005-04-11 13:44 ` Humberto Massa
[not found] <Tx9naC.A.vTD.H5YWCB@murphy>
2005-04-11 11:54 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-11 13:36 ` Michael Poole
2005-04-11 19:31 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11 19:46 ` Michael Poole
2005-04-11 20:29 ` Raul Miller
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2005-04-11 11:51 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-11 11:44 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-08 12:08 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-08 12:20 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
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2005-04-07 14:30 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 14:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-04-07 15:01 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 15:07 ` Oliver Neukum
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2005-04-07 12:29 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 13:03 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-07 13:30 ` John Stoffel
2005-04-07 13:34 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-04-07 14:15 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-08 8:06 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 9:46 ` Ralph Corderoy
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2005-04-05 19:00 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-06 20:36 ` Raul Miller
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2005-04-05 16:53 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-05 15:00 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-05 15:50 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-05 17:53 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-05 18:17 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-05 18:34 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-05 18:50 ` Chris Friesen
2005-04-05 18:56 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-06 0:10 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-06 7:34 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-06 7:46 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 7:47 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 19:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 19:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05 19:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 20:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05 20:16 ` Brian Gerst
2005-04-05 20:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 21:13 ` Brian Gerst
2005-04-06 9:04 ` Jörn Engel
2005-04-06 20:15 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-08 7:44 ` Sven Luther
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2005-04-05 14:37 ` Humberto Massa
[not found] <h-GOHD.A.KL.s2aUCB@murphy>
2005-04-05 12:03 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-05 12:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 14:02 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 17:30 ` Horst von Brand
2005-04-05 13:57 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 14:53 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 20:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-07 21:05 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 0:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08 6:54 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 17:20 ` Adrian Bunk
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2005-04-04 10:09 Sven Luther
2005-04-04 10:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-04 10:59 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07 7:17 ` Jes Sorensen
2005-04-07 11:27 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 13:26 ` Michael Poole
2005-04-04 14:16 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 17:51 ` Greg KH
2005-04-04 18:21 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:12 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-04 19:24 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:36 ` Roland Dreier
2005-04-04 18:27 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:17 ` Greg KH
2005-04-04 19:29 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-04 20:23 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 21:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-04 21:16 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 20:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-04 21:19 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 8:19 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-05 8:32 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 8:49 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-05 9:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-05 9:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05 9:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-05 9:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05 9:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-05 10:42 ` Andres Salomon
2005-04-05 9:46 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 12:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 12:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-06 19:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-04-07 9:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-07 10:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-07 11:27 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07 11:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-04-07 18:42 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 3:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-04-08 6:41 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 9:30 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-05 9:36 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 15:21 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 21:37 ` Don Armstrong
2005-04-04 18:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-04-04 19:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-04 20:27 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 20:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-04 21:24 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 21:58 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 9:33 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07 1:05 ` Alan Cox
2005-04-07 7:28 ` Jes Sorensen
2005-04-07 7:25 ` Jes Sorensen
2005-04-07 8:04 ` David Schmitt
2005-04-07 8:17 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-04-07 8:32 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-07 8:46 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-04-07 8:26 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-07 20:16 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-07 23:20 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08 3:55 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-08 7:41 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 12:30 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-04 19:05 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-04-04 19:14 ` Greg KH
2005-04-04 19:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-05 14:05 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-05 15:39 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07 21:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08 7:22 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-08 11:23 ` Jörn Engel
2005-04-08 17:34 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08 17:42 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-08 18:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08 18:16 ` Rich Walker
2005-04-08 18:42 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-10 9:24 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-04-11 20:55 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-09 0:31 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-09 14:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-09 20:31 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-08 11:53 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:41 ` Sven Luther
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