From: Raul Miller <moth@debian.org>
To: debian-legal@lists.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 01:46:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050413014658.G24721@links.magenta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKGEPBDBAB.davids@webmaster.com>; from davids@webmaster.com on Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 03:45:43PM -0700
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 03:45:43PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote:
> This wasn't a copyright case. The court only refused to uphold the
> agreement because there was no oppurtunity to review the agreement before
> purchase. So it certainly wouldn't apply to a click-through type agreement.
http://www.answers.com/topic/first-sale-doctrine cites several cases,
and has a very nice writeup on the current status of this issue.
In essence, you're claiming that the difference between Davidson
& Associates v. Internet Gateway Inc (2004) and other cases such as
Softman v. Adobe (2001) and Novell, Inc. v. CPU Distrib., Inc. (2000)
is that the presence of a click-through is the determining factor.
Of course, it could just as easily be something else (for example,
admitting in court agreement with the license).
Does this thread have anything to do with the linux kernel at this point?
--
Raul
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2005-04-12 9:41 ` non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-12 16:44 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 17:50 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-12 19:05 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 21:37 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-14 1:54 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-14 4:14 ` [Long OT] " Kyle Moffett
2005-04-14 5:13 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-12 18:53 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-12 19:15 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 20:00 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-12 22:45 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-13 5:46 ` Raul Miller [this message]
2005-04-13 6:28 ` Sean Kellogg
2005-04-13 13:55 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-13 9:17 ` Bodo Eggert
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2005-04-14 18:26 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-14 12:18 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-14 17:44 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-14 18:43 ` Raul Miller
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2005-04-12 20:23 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-14 1:37 ` David Schwartz
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2005-04-12 17:29 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-12 11:44 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-12 19:01 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 21:31 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-11 16:12 Marco Colombo
2005-04-11 16:25 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-11 20:54 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-11 21:07 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-12 0:40 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-12 5:40 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-12 16:14 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-12 18:45 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-13 2:23 ` Zan Lynx
2005-04-13 14:53 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-13 19:47 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-14 18:03 ` Marco Colombo
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2005-04-11 13:44 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-11 11:54 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-11 13:36 ` Michael Poole
2005-04-11 19:31 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11 19:46 ` Michael Poole
2005-04-11 20:29 ` Raul Miller
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2005-04-11 11:51 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-11 11:44 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-08 12:08 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-08 12:20 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
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2005-04-07 14:30 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 14:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-04-07 15:01 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 15:07 ` Oliver Neukum
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2005-04-07 12:29 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 13:03 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-07 13:30 ` John Stoffel
2005-04-07 13:34 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-04-07 14:15 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-08 8:06 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 9:46 ` Ralph Corderoy
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2005-04-07 12:15 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-08 2:10 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-08 3:05 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08 3:56 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-08 7:57 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 20:48 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-09 11:19 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-10 3:07 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-10 4:20 ` Glenn Maynard
2005-04-10 20:18 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11 1:34 ` Glenn Maynard
2005-04-11 2:40 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11 20:17 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-11 11:43 ` Anthony DeRobertis
2005-04-11 0:26 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-11 2:40 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08 4:05 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-08 7:54 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 7:51 ` Sven Luther
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2005-04-05 19:00 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-06 20:36 ` Raul Miller
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2005-04-05 15:00 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-05 15:50 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-05 17:53 ` Josselin Mouette
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2005-04-05 18:50 ` Chris Friesen
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2005-04-05 21:13 ` Brian Gerst
2005-04-06 9:04 ` Jörn Engel
2005-04-06 20:15 ` Olivier Galibert
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2005-04-07 20:56 ` Adrian Bunk
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2005-04-06 19:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2005-04-04 21:24 ` Sven Luther
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2005-04-07 1:05 ` Alan Cox
2005-04-07 7:28 ` Jes Sorensen
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2005-04-07 8:04 ` David Schmitt
2005-04-07 8:17 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-04-07 8:32 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-07 8:46 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-04-07 8:26 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-07 20:16 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-07 23:20 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08 3:55 ` Raul Miller
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