From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Andreas Steinmetz <ast@domdv.de>,
rjw@sisk.pl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH encrypted swsusp 1/3] core functionality
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:51:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050414065124.GA1357@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050414003506.GQ25554@waste.org>
Hi!
> > > > > The ssh keys are *encrypted* in the swap when dmcrypt is used.
> > > > > When the swap runs over dmcrypt all writes including those from
> > > > > swsusp are encrypted.
> > > >
> > > > Andreas is right. They are encrypted in swap, but they should not be
> > > > there at all. And they are encrypted by key that is still available
> > > > after resume. Bad.
> > >
> > > The dmcrypt swap can only be unlocked by the user with a passphrase,
> > > which is analogous to how you unlock your ssh private key stored
> > > on the disk using a passphrase.
> >
> > Once more:
> >
> > Andreas' implementation destroys the key during resume.
>
> This solution is all wrong.
>
> If you want security of the suspend image while "suspended", encrypt
> with dm-crypt. If you want security of the swap image after resume,
> zero out the portion of swap used. If you want both, do both.
I want security of the swap image, and "just zeroing" is hard to do in
failed suspend case, see previous discussion.
Andreas, do you think you could write nice, long, FAQ entries so that
we don't have to go through this discussion over and over?
Pavel
--
Boycott Kodak -- for their patent abuse against Java.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-14 6:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-10 23:19 [PATCH encrypted swsusp 1/3] core functionality Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-11 10:25 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-11 10:36 ` folkert
2005-04-11 11:01 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-11 11:38 ` folkert
2005-04-11 16:28 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-11 16:36 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-11 13:08 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-11 11:08 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-11 13:11 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-11 16:11 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-11 20:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-11 21:08 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-11 21:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-12 10:07 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-12 10:52 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-12 13:17 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-13 11:59 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-13 12:59 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-13 21:27 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-13 22:29 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-13 23:10 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-13 23:24 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-13 23:39 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-13 23:46 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-14 0:35 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-14 6:51 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-04-14 8:08 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-14 9:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-14 17:11 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-14 19:27 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-04-14 19:53 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-14 20:18 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-14 22:27 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-14 22:11 ` Andy Isaacson
2005-04-14 22:48 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-15 9:44 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-15 9:44 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-15 17:00 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-14 20:13 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-14 9:05 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-15 9:44 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2005-04-15 9:47 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-14 1:13 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-04-14 8:27 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-14 8:31 ` encrypted swap (was Re: [PATCH encrypted swsusp 1/3] core functionality) Andy Isaacson
2005-04-14 8:38 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-14 8:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-14 1:11 ` [PATCH encrypted swsusp 1/3] core functionality Bernd Eckenfels
2005-04-13 13:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-13 14:45 ` Andreas Steinmetz
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