From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
Frank Sorenson <frank@tuxrocks.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
ML ACPI-devel <acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Bodo Bauer <bb@suse.de>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Updated: Dynamic Tick version 050408-1 - C-state measures
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:08:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050420120846.GA21897@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050420120102.GB28491@isilmar.linta.de>
Hi!
> > > > Because I don't consider whether there was bm_activity the last ms, I only
> > > > consider the average, it seems to happen that I try to trigger
> > > > C3/C4 when there is just something copied and some bm active ?!?
> > >
> > > I don't think that this is perfect behaviour: if the system is idle, and
> > > there is _currently_ bus master activity, the CPU should be put into C1 or
> > > C2 type sleep. If you select C3 and actually enter it, you're risking
> > > DMA issues, AFAICS.
> >
> > What kinds of DMA issues? Waiting 32msec or so is only heuristic; it
> > can go wrong any time. It would be really bad if it corrupted data or
> > something like that.
>
> loop()
> a) bus mastering activity is going on at the very moment
> b) the CPU is entering C3
> c) the CPU is woken out of C3 because of bus mastering activity
>
> the repeated delay between b) and c) might be problematic, as can be seen
> by the comment in processor_idle.c:
>
> * TBD: A better policy might be to fallback to the demotion
> * state (use it for this quantum only) istead of
> * demoting -- and rely on duration as our sole demotion
> * qualification. This may, however, introduce DMA
> * issues (e.g. floppy DMA transfer overrun/underrun).
> */
>
> I'm not so worried about floppy DMA but about the ipw2x00 issues here.
Like "ipw2x00 looses packets" if this happens too often?
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-20 12:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-06 8:30 [PATCH] Dynamic Tick version 050406-1 Tony Lindgren
2005-04-06 21:16 ` Frank Sorenson
2005-04-07 8:21 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-04-07 9:26 ` Alexander Nyberg
2005-04-08 6:22 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-04-07 21:35 ` Frank Sorenson
2005-04-07 22:20 ` Frank Sorenson
2005-04-08 6:25 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-04-08 7:50 ` [PATCH] Updated: Dynamic Tick version 050408-1 Tony Lindgren
2005-04-08 8:49 ` Frank Sorenson
2005-04-08 9:17 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-04-08 21:42 ` Frank Sorenson
2005-04-09 8:09 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-04-08 11:33 ` Thomas Renninger
2005-04-08 11:55 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-04-08 12:58 ` Thomas Renninger
2005-04-09 8:22 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-04-19 14:56 ` [PATCH] Updated: Dynamic Tick version 050408-1 - C-state measures Thomas Renninger
2005-04-19 15:27 ` Dominik Brodowski
2005-04-19 21:03 ` Thomas Renninger
2005-04-20 11:44 ` Dominik Brodowski
2005-04-20 11:57 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-20 12:01 ` Dominik Brodowski
2005-04-20 12:08 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-04-20 12:13 ` Dominik Brodowski
2005-04-20 12:24 ` Thomas Renninger
2005-04-19 21:09 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-20 20:01 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-04-21 7:54 ` Thomas Renninger
2005-04-08 10:28 ` [PATCH] Updated: Dynamic Tick version 050408-1 Pavel Machek
2005-04-08 10:54 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-04-08 12:24 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-09 9:56 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-14 19:41 ` Tony Lindgren
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