From: David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>
To: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
Cc: Steven Dake <sdake@mvista.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1b/7] dlm: core locking
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:26:38 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050427142638.GG16502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050427134142.GZ4431@marowsky-bree.de>
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 03:41:42PM +0200, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
> So in effect, the delivery of the suspend/membership distribution/resume
> events are three cluster-wide barriers?
>
> I can see how that simplifies the recovery algorithm.
Correct. I actually consider it two external barriers: the first after
the lockspace has been suspended, the second after lockspace recovery is
completed.
> And, I assume that the delivery of a "node down" membership event
> implies that said node also has been fenced.
Typically it does if you're combining the dlm with something that requires
fencing (like a file system). Fencing isn't relevant to the dlm itself,
though, since the dlm software isn't touching any storage.
> So we can't deliver it raw membership events. Noted.
That's right, it requires more intelligence on the part of the external
management system in userspace.
> If you want to think about this in terms of locking hierarchy, it's the
> high-level feature rich sophisticated aka bloated lock manager which
> controls the "lower level" faster and more scalable "sublockspace" and
> coordinates it in terms of the other complex objects (like fencing,
> applications, filesystems etc).
>
> Just some food for thought how this all fits together rather neatly.
Interesting, and sounds correct. I must admit that using the word "lock"
to describe these CRM-level inter-dependent objects is new to me.
Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-27 14:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-25 16:58 [PATCH 1b/7] dlm: core locking David Teigland
2005-04-25 18:34 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-04-25 20:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-25 22:27 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-04-26 1:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-25 20:41 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-04-26 5:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-25 21:54 ` Steven Dake
2005-04-26 5:49 ` David Teigland
2005-04-26 17:40 ` Steven Dake
2005-04-26 22:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-26 23:04 ` Steven Dake
2005-04-27 0:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-27 1:50 ` Steven Dake
2005-04-27 4:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-27 3:02 ` David Teigland
2005-04-27 13:41 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-04-27 14:26 ` David Teigland [this message]
2005-04-28 12:33 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-04-28 16:39 ` Daniel McNeil
2005-04-28 16:45 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-04-29 8:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-05-02 20:45 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-05-02 23:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-29 4:01 ` David Teigland
2005-04-29 22:58 ` Daniel McNeil
2005-04-30 4:29 ` David Teigland
2005-04-30 9:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-30 10:32 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-04-30 11:12 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-05-02 20:51 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-05-02 22:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-05-05 12:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-05-05 12:40 ` copy_to_user question linux
2005-05-05 13:13 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-05 19:29 ` [PATCH 1b/7] dlm: core locking Daniel Phillips
2005-04-28 2:52 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-28 12:37 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-04-28 23:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-28 6:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-28 12:55 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-04-29 0:26 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-29 2:52 ` David Teigland
2005-04-29 3:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-05-02 21:00 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-05-03 2:54 ` David Teigland
2005-04-27 12:33 ` Domen Puncer
2005-04-27 13:30 ` David Teigland
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