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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linuxppc64-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] ppc64: SPU file system
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 14:33:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200505151433.11108.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1116158548.5095.17.camel@gaston>

On Sünndag 15 Mai 2005 14:02, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> 
> > That's even more evil than ioctl()... Try doing 32-vs-64bit conversion
> > on write...
> 
> I don't see the problem ... if you are passing a structure, you have to
> convert it anyway, and it's bad practice. I was thinking about passing
> ascii so it can be controlled by shell scripts.

Parsing multi-value ascii data is error prone. in kernel space, I would
not want to do anything more complex than a simple_strtoul(), if only
for the reason of not giving bad examples.

When passing binary structures, there is a significant difference between
passing it through ioctl or read/write: We already have a rather complicated
method of detecting if whether and how to convert them (f_op->compat_ioctl,
hash lookup and the deprecated dynamic registration).

For read/write, there is no way to tell if you need to do the conversion,
even if the file operation is aware of the actual data layout of both
variants. Moreover, a good implementation of a read/write file operation
should be able to deal with resuming partial transfers.

Regarding the shell scripting possibility, I don't really see the point.
The only code that should actually use the kernel interfaces is something
like an /lib/ld-spu.so interpreter and that is better implemented in C
anyway because it needs to parse ELF structures and such.

	Arnd <><

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-15 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-13 19:31 [PATCH 0/8] ppc64: Introduce Cell/BPA platform, v2 Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-13 19:21 ` [PATCH 1/8] ppc64: split out generic rtas code from pSeries_pci.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-13 19:23 ` [PATCH 2/8] ppc64: add a minimal nvram driver Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-13 19:24 ` [PATCH 3/8] ppc64: add a watchdog driver for rtas Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-17 20:40   ` Nathan Lynch
2005-05-18  7:14     ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-18 14:45       ` Nathan Lynch
2005-05-18 14:39         ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH 4/8] ppc64: add BPA platform type Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-17  7:01   ` Paul Mackerras
2005-05-17 11:05     ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-13 19:26 ` [PATCH 5/8] ppc64: Add driver for BPA interrupt controllers Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-13 19:27 ` [PATCH 6/8] ppc64: Add driver for BPA iommu Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-13 19:29 ` [PATCH 7/8] ppc64: SPU file system Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-13 23:31   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-05-15  9:07     ` Pavel Machek
2005-05-15 12:02       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-05-15 12:33         ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2005-05-14  7:45   ` Greg KH
2005-05-14 13:05     ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-15  6:29       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-05-15 10:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-15 11:50           ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-16 20:58       ` Greg KH
2005-05-16 22:01         ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-16 22:27           ` Greg KH
2005-05-16 22:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-16 22:49               ` Greg KH
2005-05-15 11:24     ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-16 20:14     ` Roland Dreier
2005-05-16 20:53       ` Greg KH
2005-05-18 12:40     ` [PATCH] libfs: add simple attribute files Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-18 20:24       ` Greg KH
2005-05-19  8:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-05-19  9:18           ` 2.4 Kernel threads linux
2005-06-10  4:33           ` [PATCH] libfs: add simple attribute files Greg KH
2005-05-13 19:32 ` [PATCH 8/8] ppc64: add spufs user library Arnd Bergmann

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