From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org, hch@infradead.org,
dwalker@mvista.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sdietrich@mvista.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, "Bill Huey (hui)" <bhuey@lnxw.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
James Bruce <bruce@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: RT patch acceptance
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 19:11:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050531171143.GS5413@g5.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1117556283.2569.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:18:03PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> Later, while working at Lockheed, we had WindRiver over and they would
> only give a small broken down (basically all features removed) OS that
> Lockheed would be responsible for testing.
>
> When someone mentions Hard-RT, this is what I think about. These are
I think testing is the wrong word. The code should be demonstrated to be
correct, and to do so it must be stripped down and as simple as
possible. Then the more testing the better to verify it's all right, but
people shouldn't depend _only_ on huge testing. Probably linux is too
big anyway for those usages, but certainly one needs a guarantee of
hard-RT for those usages that preempt-RT sure can't provide (while
nanokernel/RTAI could at least in theory provide it, assuming rest of
linux itself has no bugs and no memory corruption/deadlocks leading to a
full system crash).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-31 17:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 345+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-23 23:14 RT patch acceptance Daniel Walker
2005-05-24 2:01 ` john cooper
2005-05-24 5:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-24 6:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 8:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-24 8:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 8:27 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-24 9:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 9:14 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-24 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 18:05 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-24 22:41 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-24 23:44 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-25 0:10 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 0:32 ` K.R. Foley
2005-05-25 0:45 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-25 1:32 ` K.R. Foley
2005-05-25 0:45 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-25 0:59 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 1:02 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-25 1:43 ` Andrew Morton
2005-05-25 2:02 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-05-25 2:20 ` Andrew Morton
2005-05-25 2:26 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-25 3:24 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 3:36 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-05-25 5:05 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 6:09 ` RT patch acceptance (scheduler) Bill Huey
2005-05-25 7:00 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 9:27 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 14:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 15:12 ` RT patch acceptance (scheduler) --- QUESTION Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-25 15:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-25 6:05 ` RT patch acceptance Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 18:50 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-25 3:26 ` Gene Heskett
2005-05-25 5:17 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 13:20 ` Gene Heskett
2005-05-25 6:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 7:18 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 7:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 10:51 ` Con Kolivas
2005-05-25 8:29 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-05-25 13:23 ` Gene Heskett
2005-05-25 17:17 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-25 17:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-25 18:00 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-26 19:32 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-26 20:11 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-26 20:27 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-26 20:46 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-26 23:57 ` john cooper
2005-05-26 21:28 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-26 23:44 ` john cooper
2005-05-27 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-27 5:24 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-27 7:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 8:07 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-27 15:56 ` K.R. Foley
2005-05-28 3:59 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-27 7:20 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-27 8:17 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-27 10:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-05-27 17:46 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-27 12:08 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-27 12:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 20:36 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-27 12:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-27 23:36 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 3:53 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-28 4:27 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-28 4:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-28 5:53 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 5:45 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 6:49 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-29 11:37 ` James Bruce
2005-05-29 12:23 ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-30 9:37 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-30 13:43 ` James Bruce
2005-05-30 14:21 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-30 22:27 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 22:54 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 23:05 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 23:29 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-31 1:21 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-31 2:09 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 9:12 ` James Bruce
2005-05-31 9:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-31 10:23 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 10:48 ` James Bruce
2005-05-31 11:06 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-31 11:14 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-31 11:31 ` Hari N
2005-05-31 16:59 ` James Bruce
2005-05-31 12:09 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-31 16:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-31 16:42 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-31 17:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2005-05-31 17:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-31 17:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 18:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-31 20:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 21:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-31 21:47 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-31 22:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 23:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-01 0:50 ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-01 2:38 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-31 22:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 22:33 ` NZG
2005-05-31 23:14 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 21:33 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 23:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-01 0:57 ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-06-01 6:23 ` John Alvord
2005-06-01 11:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-01 0:26 ` Peter Chubb
2005-06-01 8:17 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-31 14:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 15:07 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-31 16:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 18:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-05-31 20:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 1:14 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-01 1:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-01 1:50 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-01 2:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-01 12:18 ` Paulo Marques
2005-06-01 13:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 14:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-01 14:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 14:39 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-01 14:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-01 14:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 14:45 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 15:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 15:15 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 15:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 17:30 ` pi_test predicted results Daniel Walker
2005-06-01 17:58 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 15:33 ` RT patch acceptance Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-01 15:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 17:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-01 19:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 19:34 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 19:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 20:17 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 20:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 20:46 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 21:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 21:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-06-01 21:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 22:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-06-01 23:44 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-06-01 21:42 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 21:59 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 22:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 23:02 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 23:19 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-02 8:50 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 23:59 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-02 0:03 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 19:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-01 20:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 20:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-01 21:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 14:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 14:56 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-01 14:58 ` Paulo Marques
2005-06-01 15:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 15:33 ` john cooper
2005-06-01 15:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 15:19 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-01 14:59 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 15:47 ` NZG
2005-06-01 15:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 17:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-06-01 18:19 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 15:09 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-31 9:14 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-30 23:32 ` James Bruce
2005-05-31 1:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-31 2:06 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-31 2:26 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-31 7:34 ` James Bruce
2005-05-31 19:10 ` Elladan
2005-05-30 22:10 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 17:53 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 19:24 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-30 19:44 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 21:44 ` Rich Walker
2005-05-30 22:45 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 23:03 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 23:12 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 23:31 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-31 0:00 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 11:25 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-29 1:55 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-29 2:48 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-29 2:58 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-29 4:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-29 15:00 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-29 17:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-29 19:52 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-29 21:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-30 13:01 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 14:30 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-28 6:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-28 10:22 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 10:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-28 10:36 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 10:34 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 10:50 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 10:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-28 11:01 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 11:32 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-27 9:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-05-27 9:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 9:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-14 0:48 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-14 3:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-14 3:38 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-26 20:38 ` john cooper
2005-05-26 21:00 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-26 21:23 ` john cooper
2005-05-26 20:52 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-26 21:09 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-26 21:14 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
[not found] ` <20050526200424.GA27162@elte.hu>
[not found] ` <20050527123529.GD86087@muc.de>
2005-05-27 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 12:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-27 13:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 13:31 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-27 13:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 13:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 13:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-28 19:55 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-28 20:57 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-27 13:56 ` Takashi Iwai
2005-05-27 14:27 ` Duncan Sands
2005-05-27 16:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-30 9:53 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-30 10:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-30 10:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-30 12:10 ` what is the -RT tree Ingo Molnar
2005-05-30 12:40 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-30 13:30 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 16:18 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-30 11:15 ` RT patch acceptance Thomas Gleixner
2005-05-27 13:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 3:48 ` john cooper
2005-05-25 11:35 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-25 13:14 ` john cooper
2005-05-25 6:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 1:05 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 2:37 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-25 2:36 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-05-25 2:56 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-25 3:05 ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-25 19:24 ` Tim Bird
2005-05-25 2:38 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-25 2:58 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-25 2:51 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-05-25 6:15 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 13:25 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-25 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 13:27 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-25 17:32 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-25 18:16 ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-27 2:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-25 16:01 ` Jonathan Corbet
2005-05-24 11:22 ` K.R. Foley
2005-05-24 15:21 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-24 15:41 ` K.R. Foley
2005-05-24 17:31 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-24 15:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 23:21 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-24 15:44 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-24 15:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 16:27 ` john cooper
2005-05-24 18:01 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-24 9:38 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-24 13:29 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-24 13:58 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-24 14:42 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-24 15:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 16:17 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-24 21:23 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-05-24 22:31 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-24 22:54 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-05-24 23:41 ` Lee Revell
[not found] ` <1116979434.2912.63.camel@mindpipe>
2005-05-25 0:48 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-24 23:46 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-25 3:38 ` Gene Heskett
2005-05-24 23:49 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 14:26 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-05-24 14:47 ` Gene Heskett
2005-05-24 17:22 ` Philippe Gerum
2005-05-25 0:21 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-25 2:04 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-05-25 20:58 ` Tom Vier
2005-05-25 21:05 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-25 21:10 ` NZG
2005-05-25 21:25 ` Tom Vier
2005-05-25 21:43 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-25 21:45 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 21:43 ` Bill Huey
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
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2005-05-25 18:10 YhLu
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2005-05-30 8:25 kus Kusche Klaus
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2005-05-30 11:34 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-30 11:58 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-30 18:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-30 18:37 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-30 18:56 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 18:58 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 19:33 ` Esben Nielsen
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2005-05-30 20:00 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-31 8:53 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-31 22:01 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 0:38 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 22:34 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 22:49 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 22:49 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 23:15 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-31 0:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-05-31 16:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-31 19:52 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-31 20:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-31 21:36 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 19:55 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-31 20:01 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-31 20:10 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-31 20:14 ` David Lang
2005-06-01 2:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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