From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> Cc: Paulo Marques <pmarques@grupopie.com>, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>, Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>, James Bruce <bruce@andrew.cmu.edu>, Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>, "Bill Huey (hui)" <bhuey@lnxw.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sdietrich@mvista.com>, dwalker@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RT patch acceptance Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:57:46 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20050601145746.GK5413@g5.random> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20050601144544.GA13936@elte.hu> On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 04:45:44PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> wrote: > > > > you are wrong. This codepath is not running with interrupts disabled on > > > PREEMPT_RT. irqs-off spinlocks dont turn off interrupts on PREEMPT_RT. > > > > Then I'm afraid preempt-RT infringe on the patent [...] > > i'd have expected you to say "oops, i was wrong, thanks for the > explanation", but now you come up with a completely nontechnical topic > instead? Perhaps you didn't follow the story of RTAI, RTAI nanokernel adeos etc..etc.. has all been implemented to workaround that US patent. So to me redefining cli in any way has always been a no-way. Originally RTAI users were infringing and they've been forced to switch to nanokernel AFIK. In US patents exists, if you've a problem with that it's sure not me that you should talk with. I'd be very happy not having to come up with nontechnical topics. > of PREEMPT_RT - today you finally seem to have gotten closer to > understanding its basics ;-) ] You also got closer to learn how and why RT has developed in linux the way it did. The main confusion come from the fact your patch is obviously covered by the patent since you're redefinining cli, while I assumed it wasn't.
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2005-05-23 23:14 RT patch acceptance Daniel Walker
2005-05-24 2:01 ` john cooper
2005-05-24 5:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-24 6:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 8:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-24 8:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 8:27 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-24 9:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 9:14 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-24 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 18:05 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-24 22:41 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-24 23:44 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-25 0:10 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 0:32 ` K.R. Foley
2005-05-25 0:45 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-25 1:32 ` K.R. Foley
2005-05-25 0:45 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-25 0:59 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 1:02 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-25 1:43 ` Andrew Morton
2005-05-25 2:02 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-05-25 2:20 ` Andrew Morton
2005-05-25 2:26 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-25 3:24 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 3:36 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-05-25 5:05 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 6:09 ` RT patch acceptance (scheduler) Bill Huey
2005-05-25 7:00 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 9:27 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 14:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 15:12 ` RT patch acceptance (scheduler) --- QUESTION Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-25 15:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-25 6:05 ` RT patch acceptance Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 18:50 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-25 3:26 ` Gene Heskett
2005-05-25 5:17 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 13:20 ` Gene Heskett
2005-05-25 6:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 7:18 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-25 7:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 10:51 ` Con Kolivas
2005-05-25 8:29 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-05-25 13:23 ` Gene Heskett
2005-05-25 17:17 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-25 17:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-25 18:00 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-26 19:32 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-26 20:11 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-26 20:27 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-26 20:46 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-26 23:57 ` john cooper
2005-05-26 21:28 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-26 23:44 ` john cooper
2005-05-27 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-27 5:24 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-27 7:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 8:07 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-27 15:56 ` K.R. Foley
2005-05-28 3:59 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-27 7:20 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-27 8:17 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-27 10:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-05-27 17:46 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-27 12:08 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-27 12:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 20:36 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-27 12:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-27 23:36 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 3:53 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-28 4:27 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-28 4:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-28 5:53 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 5:45 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 6:49 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-29 11:37 ` James Bruce
2005-05-29 12:23 ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-30 9:37 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-30 13:43 ` James Bruce
2005-05-30 14:21 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-30 22:27 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 22:54 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 23:05 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 23:29 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-31 1:21 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-31 2:09 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 9:12 ` James Bruce
2005-05-31 9:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-31 10:23 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 10:48 ` James Bruce
2005-05-31 11:06 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-31 11:14 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-31 11:31 ` Hari N
2005-05-31 16:59 ` James Bruce
2005-05-31 12:09 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-31 16:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-31 16:42 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-31 17:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 17:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-31 17:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 18:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-31 20:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 21:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-31 21:47 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-31 22:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 23:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-01 0:50 ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-01 2:38 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-31 22:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 22:33 ` NZG
2005-05-31 23:14 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 21:33 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 23:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-01 0:57 ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-06-01 6:23 ` John Alvord
2005-06-01 11:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-01 0:26 ` Peter Chubb
2005-06-01 8:17 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-31 14:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 15:07 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-31 16:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-31 18:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-05-31 20:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 1:14 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-01 1:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-01 1:50 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-01 2:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-01 12:18 ` Paulo Marques
2005-06-01 13:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 14:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-01 14:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 14:39 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-01 14:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-01 14:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2005-06-01 14:45 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 15:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 15:15 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 15:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 17:30 ` pi_test predicted results Daniel Walker
2005-06-01 17:58 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 15:33 ` RT patch acceptance Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-01 15:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 17:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-01 19:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 19:34 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 19:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 20:17 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 20:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 20:46 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 21:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 21:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-06-01 21:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 22:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-06-01 23:44 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-06-01 21:42 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 21:59 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 22:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 23:02 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 23:19 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-02 8:50 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 23:59 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-02 0:03 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-01 19:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-01 20:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 20:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-01 21:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 14:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 14:56 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-01 14:58 ` Paulo Marques
2005-06-01 15:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 15:33 ` john cooper
2005-06-01 15:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 15:19 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-01 14:59 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 15:47 ` NZG
2005-06-01 15:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-01 17:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-06-01 18:19 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-06-01 15:09 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-31 9:14 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-30 23:32 ` James Bruce
2005-05-31 1:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-31 2:06 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-31 2:26 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-31 7:34 ` James Bruce
2005-05-31 19:10 ` Elladan
2005-05-30 22:10 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 17:53 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 19:24 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-30 19:44 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 21:44 ` Rich Walker
2005-05-30 22:45 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 23:03 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 23:12 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-30 23:31 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-31 0:00 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-30 11:25 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-29 1:55 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-29 2:48 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-29 2:58 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-29 4:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-29 15:00 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-29 17:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-29 19:52 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-29 21:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-30 13:01 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 14:30 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-05-28 6:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-28 10:22 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 10:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-28 10:36 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 10:34 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 10:50 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 10:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-28 11:01 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-28 11:32 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-27 9:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-05-27 9:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 9:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-06-14 0:48 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-14 3:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-14 3:38 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-26 20:38 ` john cooper
2005-05-26 21:00 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-26 21:23 ` john cooper
2005-05-26 20:52 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-26 21:09 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-26 21:14 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
[not found] ` <20050526200424.GA27162@elte.hu>
[not found] ` <20050527123529.GD86087@muc.de>
2005-05-27 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 12:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-27 13:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 13:31 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-27 13:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 13:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-27 13:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-28 19:55 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-28 20:57 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-27 13:56 ` Takashi Iwai
2005-05-27 14:27 ` Duncan Sands
2005-05-27 16:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-30 9:53 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-30 10:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-30 10:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-30 12:10 ` what is the -RT tree Ingo Molnar
2005-05-30 12:40 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-30 13:30 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-31 16:18 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-30 11:15 ` RT patch acceptance Thomas Gleixner
2005-05-27 13:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 3:48 ` john cooper
2005-05-25 11:35 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-25 13:14 ` john cooper
2005-05-25 6:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 1:05 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 2:37 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-25 2:36 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-05-25 2:56 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-25 3:05 ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-25 19:24 ` Tim Bird
2005-05-25 2:38 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-25 2:58 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-25 2:51 ` Sven Dietrich
2005-05-25 6:15 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-25 13:25 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-25 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-25 13:27 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-25 17:32 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-05-25 18:16 ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-27 2:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-05-25 16:01 ` Jonathan Corbet
2005-05-24 11:22 ` K.R. Foley
2005-05-24 15:21 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-24 15:41 ` K.R. Foley
2005-05-24 17:31 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-24 15:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 23:21 ` Bill Huey
2005-05-24 15:44 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-24 15:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 16:27 ` john cooper
2005-05-24 18:01 ` Daniel Walker
2005-05-24 9:38 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-24 13:29 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-24 13:58 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-05-24 14:42 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-24 15:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-24 16:17 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-05-24 21:23 ` Sven Dietrich
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[not found] ` <1116979434.2912.63.camel@mindpipe>
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2005-05-24 23:49 ` Bill Huey
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2005-05-24 17:22 ` Philippe Gerum
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