From: "Jim Crilly" <jim@why.dont.jablowme.net>
To: Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
Cc: kraxel@suse.de, toon@hout.vanvergehaald.nl, mrmacman_g4@mac.com,
ltd@cisco.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
dtor_core@ameritech.net, 7eggert@gmx.de
Subject: Re: OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:42:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050601154245.GA14299@voodoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <429DD036.nail7BF7MRZT6@burner>
On 06/01/05 05:11:50PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > Not really. Yes, it runs on different operating systems. But to send
> > the SCSI commands to the device you have OS-specific code in there,
> > simply because it's handled in different ways on Solaris / Linux /
> > whatever OS. You could make the device addressing OS-specific as well
> > instead of expecting everyone in the world follow the Solaris model,
> > that would make life a bit easier for everyone involved.
>
> This is not the Solaris model....
>
> I did define this model 19 years ago when I did write the first
> Generic SCSI driver at all. Adaptec indepentently did develop ASPI
> 2 years later and did chose the same address model. Nearly all
> OS use this kind (or a very similar model) internaly inside the kernel
> or the basic SCSI address routines.
Just because it's old, that doesn't mean it's good. The kernel using the
numbers internally makes sense, but requiring them for userspace seems
stupid. All you should do is open the appropriate device node and let the
kernel figure out which SCSI ID to send the commands to. Every other tool
I've ever seen uses device nodes, why should cdrecord be different? All it
does is make cdrecord more difficult to use.
>
> Jörg
>
Jim.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-01 15:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-30 9:19 OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog Lincoln Dale (ltd)
2005-05-30 9:34 ` Toon van der Pas
2005-05-30 12:26 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-30 14:14 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-31 11:03 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-31 7:29 ` Terry Vernon
2005-05-31 11:46 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-31 16:59 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-05-31 19:05 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-31 19:56 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-06-01 15:56 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 16:20 ` Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
2005-06-01 16:55 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-06-01 2:23 ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-01 15:56 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-06-03 13:29 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-01 16:28 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-06-01 15:41 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:11 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:42 ` Jim Crilly [this message]
2005-06-01 16:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 17:29 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-01 17:50 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 17:59 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-02 1:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-06-02 1:46 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-06-02 1:23 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-06-03 19:51 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-06-01 22:06 ` Matthias Andree
2005-06-01 15:57 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-05-31 17:22 ` Jim Crilly
2005-05-31 19:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-05-31 20:54 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-01 15:53 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 16:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-01 17:03 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 17:28 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-02 2:08 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-06-01 17:35 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-06-02 10:34 ` Lukasz Stelmach
2005-06-01 16:21 ` Matthias Andree
2005-06-01 17:29 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:28 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:48 ` Jim Crilly
2005-05-30 13:38 ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-05-30 9:46 ` Joerg Schilling
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-30 22:00 Lincoln Dale (ltd)
2005-05-31 11:17 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] <48cRq-7TH-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <48cRq-7TH-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <48cRq-7TH-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <48dDM-5I-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <48wdp-7lh-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-26 21:53 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-05-26 23:12 ` Lee Revell
[not found] <4847F-8q-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <E1Db3zm-0004vF-9j@be1.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-25 22:46 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 23:31 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 19:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-26 21:26 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 23:30 ` Matthias Andree
2005-05-27 9:39 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-27 11:09 ` Wakko Warner
2005-05-27 14:21 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-05-30 9:07 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-30 10:47 ` Markus Plail
2005-05-30 22:27 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-05-30 23:20 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-30 23:35 ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-31 12:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-31 12:47 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505260205390.19389@be1.lrz>
2005-05-27 10:03 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505271633200.3055@be1.lrz>
2005-05-30 9:36 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505301326450.2363@be1.lrz>
2005-05-31 10:57 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 13:15 Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 23:12 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 10:15 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-26 11:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-25 12:50 Joerg Schilling
2005-05-26 4:11 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-05-26 7:14 ` Markus Plail
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