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From: Gerd Knorr <kraxel@suse.de>
To: Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
Cc: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca, toon@hout.vanvergehaald.nl,
	mrmacman_g4@mac.com, ltd@cisco.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dtor_core@ameritech.net, 7eggert@gmx.de
Subject: Re: OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:55:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050601165526.GA7815@bytesex> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <429DDAA4.nail7BFB1SXEV@burner>

On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 05:56:20PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Gerd Knorr <kraxel@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> >    # find /dev/cd /dev/disk -type l -print | sort
> >    /dev/cd/by-id/HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-4040B_K213BDG5213
> >    /dev/cd/by-id/LG_CD-RW_CED-8080B_2000_07_27e
> >    /dev/cd/by-path/pci-0000:00:04.1-ide-1:0
> >    /dev/cd/by-path/pci-0000:00:04.1-ide-1:1
> >    /dev/disk/by-id/IBM-DTLA-305040_YJEYJM36751
> >    /dev/disk/by-id/IBM-DTLA-305040_YJEYJM36751p1
> 
> Nice, but will be the Linux /dev/ fashion next year?

You simply shoudn't care.  Just open the /dev/whatever device
node passed by the user and be happy ;)

> >From my experiences it makes no sense to implement support
> for things like this before waiting long enough to know 
> whether this is something that will become ordinary.

I don't see what kind of special support you want implement in
cdrecord.  The user says "this device", cdrecord takes it and
opens it, tries a ioctl or two to figure what kind of device
handle that is (scsi generic or 2.6-style /dev/hdx), then uses
it to send scsi commands to the device.

You don't have to solve the problem of providing stable device
names within cdrecord.  That is the job of the operating system.
A udev-based linux distro can do that as you can see above.
cdrecord should just accept these device nodes, nothing more.

  Gerd

-- 
-mm seems unusually stable at present.
	-- akpm about 2.6.12-rc3-mm3

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-01 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-30  9:19 OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog Lincoln Dale (ltd)
2005-05-30  9:34 ` Toon van der Pas
2005-05-30 12:26   ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-30 14:14     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-31 11:03       ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-31  7:29         ` Terry Vernon
2005-05-31 11:46         ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-31 16:59         ` Gerd Knorr
2005-05-31 19:05           ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-31 19:56             ` Gerd Knorr
2005-06-01 15:56               ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 16:20                 ` Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
2005-06-01 16:55                 ` Gerd Knorr [this message]
2005-06-01  2:23             ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-01 15:56               ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-06-03 13:29                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-01 16:28               ` Oliver Neukum
2005-06-01 15:41             ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:11           ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:42             ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-01 16:55               ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 17:29                 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-01 17:50                   ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 17:59                     ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-02  1:14                       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-06-02  1:46                         ` Måns Rullgård
2005-06-02  1:23                       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-06-03 19:51                     ` Patrick McFarland
2005-06-01 22:06                 ` Matthias Andree
2005-06-01 15:57             ` Patrick McFarland
2005-05-31 17:22         ` Jim Crilly
2005-05-31 19:28           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-05-31 20:54             ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-01 15:53             ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 16:05               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-01 17:03                 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 17:28                   ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-02  2:08                     ` Måns Rullgård
2005-06-01 17:35                   ` Patrick McFarland
2005-06-02 10:34                   ` Lukasz Stelmach
2005-06-01 16:21               ` Matthias Andree
2005-06-01 17:29                 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:28           ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:48             ` Jim Crilly
2005-05-30 13:38   ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-05-30  9:46 ` Joerg Schilling
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-30 22:00 Lincoln Dale (ltd)
2005-05-31 11:17 ` Joerg Schilling
     [not found] <48cRq-7TH-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <48cRq-7TH-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <48cRq-7TH-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <48dDM-5I-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <48wdp-7lh-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-26 21:53         ` Bodo Eggert
2005-05-26 23:12           ` Lee Revell
     [not found] <4847F-8q-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <E1Db3zm-0004vF-9j@be1.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-25 22:46   ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 23:31     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 19:20       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-26 21:26         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 23:30           ` Matthias Andree
2005-05-27  9:39       ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-27 11:09         ` Wakko Warner
2005-05-27 14:21         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-05-30  9:07           ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-30 10:47             ` Markus Plail
2005-05-30 22:27             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-05-30 23:20               ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-30 23:35               ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-31 12:51                 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-31 12:47               ` Joerg Schilling
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505260205390.19389@be1.lrz>
2005-05-27 10:03       ` Joerg Schilling
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505271633200.3055@be1.lrz>
2005-05-30  9:36           ` Joerg Schilling
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505301326450.2363@be1.lrz>
2005-05-31 10:57               ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 13:15 Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 23:12 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 10:15   ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-26 11:42     ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-25 12:50 Joerg Schilling
2005-05-26  4:11 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-05-26  7:14   ` Markus Plail

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