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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Sample fix for hyperthread exploit
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:57:51 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200506021257.51662.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050602024924.GD27174@elte.hu>

On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:49 pm, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > Also, uid is not sufficient.  Something more comprehensive (like
> > > ability to ptrace) would be appropriate.
> >
> > I would go a lot simpler. App says "I want exclusivity" via pctl and
> > NOTHING runs on the other half. Well maybe with exceptions of
> > processes that share the mm with the exclusive one (in practice
> > "threads") since those could just read the memory anyway.
>
> this has the disadvantage of needing changes in the security apps.
> Basing this off the uid (or the ability to ptrace) makes it at least
> automatic - but introduces a permanent penalty not only on multiuser
> boxes, but on basically any server box that runs multiple services.

The performance penalty of the sample patch without extra communication or 
code would be substantial and I should make it clear to any onlookers that it 
is not recommended you use it in any real environment.

Cheers,
Con

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-02  2:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-01 11:58 [PATCH] Sample fix for hyperthread exploit Con Kolivas
2005-06-01 12:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-01 12:13   ` Con Kolivas
2005-06-01 17:25     ` Chris Wright
2005-06-01 19:29       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-02  2:49         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-02  2:57           ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2005-06-02  6:28           ` Amit Shah

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