From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261279AbVFMUaR (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:30:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261167AbVFMU0e (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:26:34 -0400 Received: from smtp.lnxw.com ([207.21.185.24]:52495 "EHLO smtp.lnxw.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261255AbVFMUZv (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:25:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:31:00 -0700 To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: Karim Yaghmour , Andrea Arcangeli , Bill Huey , Lee Revell , Tim Bird , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu, pmarques@grupopie.com, bruce@andrew.cmu.edu, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, ak@muc.de, sdietrich@mvista.com, dwalker@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org Subject: Re: Attempted summary of "RT patch acceptance" thread Message-ID: <20050613203100.GA32690@nietzsche.lynx.com> References: <20050610232955.GH6564@g5.random> <20050611014133.GO1300@us.ibm.com> <20050611155459.GB5796@g5.random> <20050611210417.GC1299@us.ibm.com> <42AB7857.1090907@opersys.com> <20050612214519.GB1340@us.ibm.com> <42ACE2D3.9080106@opersys.com> <20050613144022.GA1305@us.ibm.com> <42ADE334.4030002@opersys.com> <20050613201046.GE1305@us.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050613201046.GE1305@us.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Bill Huey (hui) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 01:10:46PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: ... > It may well be that system calls containing such side-effects need to be > Linux-only, or maybe someone will come up with the necessary tricks to > make it all work nicely. Not particularly worried about it myself -- > yet, anyway. There are plenty of things to worry about before we get > to that point! ... I suggest not speculating about the needs of various RT apps with respect to the kernel. (your speculation here will add more confusion to parts of an already confused kernel community) Vendors and other groups will layer them on as needed depending on specific usage. The futex/fusyn work is an exception with regard to syscalls, but don't speculate about projects like that if you haven't been carefully tracking their progress and their end goals. That's my suggestion. bill